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tvarksouthwest
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...and one step closer to it being axed.

Exactly what I have been thinking. My guess is a series 31 has only been commissioned so the BBC can mark Grange Hill's 30th anniversary next year.

Neil Jones posted:
I would argue that this is no great loss, as I caught chunks of this year's GH on CBBC Channel (through lack of anything else on I wanted to see at the time) and from what I saw, it was like watching a reincarnated Brookside in its last years, especially when I noticed at least one former Brookie kid actor.

It certainly wasn't the best thing to happen to Grange Hill, Mersey TV taking it over, and yes a lot of Grange Hill actors in recent times have had previous employment in either Brookside or Hollyoaks (Jack McMullen more or less getting the part of Tigger when he was "made redundant" from the Close). But a lot of the problem is CBBC's new-found reluctance to cater for older viewers, and with nowhere else to offload CBBC's "teen" shows and this is preventing Grange Hill having the bite it once did.

The irony is a lot of work was done this year to bring GH back to a teenage audience; unfortunately, BBC1 viewers won't get to see it and you could argue it's all been for nothing.
JO
Joe
tvarksouthwest posted:
Why is it necessary to rebrand the CBBC Channel just two years after last doing so? The money would be better spent on new and original programming to decrease the channel's reliance on animation and Tracy Beaker.


I believe this look was a temporary one, used to get rid of the bugs. As it is, it's lasted much longer than it's supposed to.

As for is it neccesary, you could say the same for any channel rebrand. But then, a new look could potentially give the channel a different style/image. That's also important.
JR
jrothwell97
Jugalug posted:
tvarksouthwest posted:
Why is it necessary to rebrand the CBBC Channel just two years after last doing so? The money would be better spent on new and original programming to decrease the channel's reliance on animation and Tracy Beaker.


I believe this look was a temporary one, used to get rid of the bugs. As it is, it's lasted much longer than it's supposed to.


It's because of the narrowing of CBBC's target audience I reckon that they wanted to get rid of the bugs. And of course they wanted something that would make a bigger DOG.
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tvarksouthwest
Jugalug posted:
As for is it neccesary, you could say the same for any channel rebrand. But then, a new look could potentially give the channel a different style/image. That's also important.

All channels have to rebrand at some stage; but these days the distance between rebrands is becoming ever shorter. If anything a more frequent change of image hinders, rather than helps, brand awareness.

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And of course they wanted something that would make a bigger DOG.

When is a digital channel ever going to be brave enough NOT to have a DOG? Perhaps we should have written it into the charter renewal that BBC channels do not use them.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
When is a digital channel ever going to be brave enough NOT to have a DOG?


Film4, Film4+1, Sky Movie range to name but about 15...
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nwtv2003
Go to any other country around Europe and you find nearly all channels, licence fee/funded or not, they all have a DOG, as long as it's not obsructive I don't see any problem with them at all.

I've been to Hungary recently and over there, every channel has a DOG and whenever a programme is shown they have an on-screen age rating on the bottom of the screen throughout.

CBBC's current look is awful, it just doesn't seem to mean anything, a new look is long due, the arrows just seem awful and meaningless.
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tvarksouthwest
nwtv2003 posted:
Go to any other country around Europe and you find nearly all channels, licence fee/funded or not, they all have a DOG, as long as it's not obsructive I don't see any problem with them at all.

All DOGs are obstructive, especially on channels like ITV3 where a sizable portion of the output is from the archives and would not have been branded upon its original transmission. To see a 2006 ITV3 logo permanently displayed over a 1977 edition of Rising Damp spoils the show for its fans.
DB
dbl
tvarksouthwest posted:
nwtv2003 posted:
Go to any other country around Europe and you find nearly all channels, licence fee/funded or not, they all have a DOG, as long as it's not obsructive I don't see any problem with them at all.

To see a 2006 ITV3 logo permanently displayed over a 1977 edition of Rising Damp spoils the show for its fans.

Yet they still watch? Rolling Eyes
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tvarksouthwest
Probably because marked output is better than none. If BBC2 start repeating all those Look And Read archive episodes the CBBC Channel have been showing, I'll re-record them all.
JO
Jonny
Don't think this has been mentioned anywhere:

The TV Room+ posted:
As well as a new look, the channel's airtime is to be extended, with programming continuing until 9pm each evening. BBC Vision director Jana Bennett said the extension to 9pm was a "top priority" as "we recognise children do not go to bed at 7pm". She added: "Our commitment to our digital children's channels remains rock solid."


The TV Room+

Wonder where they're getting the extra space from?
RU
russnet Founding member
tvarksouthwest posted:
Probably because marked output is better than none. If BBC2 start repeating all those Look And Read archive episodes the CBBC Channel have been showing, I'll re-record them all.


But then to see a CBBC logo permantently displayed over an old edition of Look and Read will spoil the show for its fans.
PE
Pete Founding member
plucky duck92 posted:
Wonder where they're getting the extra space from?


The new look BBC3 perhaps?

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