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mediaman2007
I havn't got to see the new episodes of the bill yet and didn't get to see what happened....
to former superintendent heaton, jack medows smithy in the top brass shake up
. Can anyone tell me what happened?


Heaton is gone, Meadows is now Super, Smithy is Inspector.
FR
Freeview
New thread for fans of the Bill. I personally think ITV are making a mistake to putting it to once a week... any views?
I agree - what was the reason again for ITV making the change? However aside the once a week episode, the show is as good as ever! Keep up the good work! Very Happy
ST
Stuart
I agree - what was the reason again for ITV making the change? However aside the once a week episode, the show is as good as ever! Keep up the good work! Very Happy

Allegedly to save money, but as the show was dropped to once a week so often I can't see them saving much.

I'm slowly getting used to the pesky filmic effect. I don't like it, but at least I've given up trying to tinker with the brightness/contrast/colour settings on the TV for every episode. I've determined that if the scene is too dark for me to see what's going on then it mustn't be crucial to the plot.

Shocked
FR
Freeview
I agree - what was the reason again for ITV making the change? However aside the once a week episode, the show is as good as ever! Keep up the good work! Very Happy

Allegedly to save money, but as the show was dropped to once a week so often I can't see them saving much.

I'm slowly getting used to the pesky filmic effect. I don't like it, but at least I've given up trying to tinker with the brightness/contrast/colour settings on the TV for every episode. I've determined that if the scene is too dark for me to see what's going on then it mustn't be crucial to the plot.

Shocked
Oh really, they did it so they could save money, however saying that the special film effect must have set them back abit so really the scheduling change was unnessasary in my view I think.
GS
Gavin Scott Founding member
Oh really, they did it so they could save money, however saying that the special film effect must have set them back abit so really the scheduling change was unnessasary in my view I think.


Its already been explained to the previous poster than it isn't an "effect", its simply a different method of shooting, which isn't inherently more expensive.

But as he continues to call it an effect, others like yourself are getting confused.
NG
noggin Founding member
Oh really, they did it so they could save money, however saying that the special film effect must have set them back abit so really the scheduling change was unnessasary in my view I think.


The film effect doesn't inherently cost any more when you shoot in HD. Unless you use VERY cheap cameras, most HD cameras allow you the choice of running at 50i or 25p. If you shoot at 25p with a 1/50th second shutter you get the same motion rendition as shooting on film pretty much (which shoots at 25fps with 1/50th second exposure if you use a standard 180 degree shutter)

Pretty much all single-camera drama is graded in post, and even some multi-camera stuff is these days, so the "look" in terms of colour balance and exposure is also cost-neutral. (Though some low cost multi-camera soaps won't go through a grade, they'll rack to a neutral look in-studio - and that is cheaper)

Lighting for the film look MAY cost a bit more - as giving stuff a flat uniform lighting effect might be a bit quicker and easier, particularly in studio when you first light a set, or on a set you only use once. However lighting for a more contrasty, pools of light and shade, effect - which is seen by some to be more cinematic, may actually be quicker and cheaper if you know what you are doing, particularly on location, and may be pretty much cost neutral on a set you use a lot.

You could argue that moving The Bill from SD to HD production is a cost increase that wasn't needed - but anyone shooting drama these days, particularly if they want to sell it abroad (and The Bill is popular in Aus, and I think NZ) has to consider HD - as it is now the norm in many territories, not just a "high-end" thing. The UK is moving quickly to HD being the norm as well - though ITV are lagging behind the BBC, C4 and Sky in commissioning HD content. (Probably because the revenue benefits are less marked for them)
SC
Si-Co
Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but the adverts for the new look have the old logo, the one Beep has just posted. But then I wouldn't call the new titles a 'logo' really, just some text.


Can anyone tell me what the slow music is used in the ITV promos? Sounds like an arrangement of Brian Bennett's Summer Love, but I'm probbaly totally wrong.
MW
Mike W
Si-Co posted:
Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but the adverts for the new look have the old logo, the one Beep has just posted. But then I wouldn't call the new titles a 'logo' really, just some text.


Can anyone tell me what the slow music is used in the ITV promos? Sounds like an arrangement of Brian Bennett's Summer Love, but I'm probbaly totally wrong.


It is. Sounds like it was redone by the guy who did their new title music.
SC
Si-Co
Beep posted:
Si-Co posted:
Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but the adverts for the new look have the old logo, the one Beep has just posted. But then I wouldn't call the new titles a 'logo' really, just some text.


Can anyone tell me what the slow music is used in the ITV promos? Sounds like an arrangement of Brian Bennett's Summer Love, but I'm probbaly totally wrong.


It is. Sounds like it was redone by the guy who did their new title music.


Thanks Beep - I have a feeling I've heard this arrangement before somewhere though!
WE
Westy2
Si-Co posted:
Beep posted:
Si-Co posted:
Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but the adverts for the new look have the old logo, the one Beep has just posted. But then I wouldn't call the new titles a 'logo' really, just some text.


Can anyone tell me what the slow music is used in the ITV promos? Sounds like an arrangement of Brian Bennett's Summer Love, but I'm probbaly totally wrong.


It is. Sounds like it was redone by the guy who did their new title music.


Thanks Beep - I have a feeling I've heard this arrangement before somewhere though!


Was it this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykpbKOnN93w

Must admit I prefer this version : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIVfNcHOtsg

It reminded me that Gorden 'Tiswas/Various BBC Local Radio stations' Astley used this version for the BBC in the Midlands Radio Late Show circa 1995. (I'm sure Mr B will correct me if I'm wrong!)
SC
Si-Co
Si-Co posted:
Beep posted:
Si-Co posted:
Don't know if this has already been mentioned, but the adverts for the new look have the old logo, the one Beep has just posted. But then I wouldn't call the new titles a 'logo' really, just some text.


Can anyone tell me what the slow music is used in the ITV promos? Sounds like an arrangement of Brian Bennett's Summer Love, but I'm probbaly totally wrong.


It is. Sounds like it was redone by the guy who did their new title music.


Thanks Beep - I have a feeling I've heard this arrangement before somewhere though!


Was it this ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykpbKOnN93w

Must admit I prefer this version : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIVfNcHOtsg

It reminded me that Gorden 'Tiswas/Various BBC Local Radio stations' Astley used this version for the BBC in the Midlands Radio Late Show circa 1995. (I'm sure Mr B will correct me if I'm wrong!)


Yes, Westy, it was the first track you linked to - and it is still being used on The Bill promos.

Does this have any link to Brian Bennett's Summer Love, or does it just sound similar?
BP
bpmikey
Just watched the BIll for the first tie since the revamp, and I have to say, I thought the actual content was amazing and I loved it! I know that some will be forever in mourning over the old themetune but in the grand scheme of things, this relaunch HAD to happen an di think its for the best!

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