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Cando1,478 posts since 8 Mar 2012
London London
Final total for the end of the show is down by nearly Million from last year. Hopeful it will raise this lot over the coming week.

How much was it?


£4.14...... Million

The phone and text lines are open until January.

Thanks, In comparison Radio 2 raised that for Children in Need alone. Down 20% year on year is a lot.


Its a shame TS isn't getting the viewers and donations that CIN gets as it deserves to. Loved the two Corrie bits and the Emmerdale bit, highlights for me.


Might be the problem, no appeal to viewers outside ITV's soap audience?
Last edited by Cando on 20 December 2013 11:33pm
Andrew13,803 posts since 27 Mar 2001
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
It works as a 3 hour show as it means less padding, no repeats, and none of Wogan's long links that never go anywhere.

It's a slick show because it will be made by the ITV Studios production team at The London Studios that have a lot of experience making live entertainment shows.

There was less and less experience of this at the BBC at TV Centre and now Elstree meaning Children in Need looked more tired and cobbled tigether as the years went on.
Cando1,478 posts since 8 Mar 2012
London London


Might be the problem, no appeal to viewers outside ITV's soap audience?

To be fair it is no different to Children in Need which is now a conveyer belt of BBC presenters and programmes, Strictly, Doctor Who, Midwife etc etc


My point is about audience appeal. Strictly/Midwife, Doctor Who and Eastenders all have 3 different types of audience profile . Corrie and Emmerdale are roughly watched by the same demographic.
Whataday10,214 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Much of Comic Relief/CiN's money raised is via corporate sponsorship rather than viewer donations (The totals they run through the night are largely pre-planned and they know a rough grand total at the start of the show)

The concept of Text Santa is far better as a charity platform; the money goes straight to the charities, without the ridiculous admin costs that Children In Need has.
gottago2,881 posts since 26 Aug 2004
London London
It's crazy how much superior TS feels as a production compared to the BBC's efforts. It feels like they've spent one hell of a lot more time organising the thing than Children in Need but I can imagine that has a lot to do with the fact that they've got a lot less time to fill as mentioned. Great graphics and studio as well.

Their use of background music during the presenter handovers (actually they only seemed to do this during the first one) kept the pace up and is one thing CIN should definitely adopt to make Wogan's non-jokes feel less endless.

One thing that didn't really work was the way they'd play Catchphrase and Ant vs Dec for money for Text Santa. Seemingly guaranteed money from ITV that was added to the end jackpot?
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Brekkie32,283 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
Not seen anything of tonight's show but The Chase was brilliant earlier, and actually feels like a Christmas special or charity special rather than just yet another celebrity edition.
I preferred the internet when it had a sense of humour.
Cando1,478 posts since 8 Mar 2012
London London
Much of Comic Relief/CiN's money raised is via corporate sponsorship rather than viewer donations.

The concept of Text Santa is far better as a charity platform; the money goes straight to the charities, without the ridiculous admin costs that Children In Need has.


Sorry but that's not true on both counts, 80% of C.I.N on the night total is from on the night donations and amounts the public raised. Only Corporate stuff announced on the night is from CIN partners. Both CIN and Relief double their totals of course in the months after unlike TS.Children in need has no admin costs and what it does have is offset from interest unlike the Text Santa charities!

Anyway neither explains the massive 20% year on year drop in donations for text santa. I imagine there are some unhappy heads at ITV tonight. As I pointed out above Radio 2 raised that alone for Children in Need this year.
Something clearly isn't working! Sad
Last edited by Cando on 20 December 2013 11:55pm
62305823,632 posts since 19 Aug 2005

Anyway neither explains the massive 20% year on year drop for text santa. As I pointed out above Radio 2 raised that alone for Children in Need this year.
Something clearly isn't working!


Year on year drop? NO....................

2011 £4,200,000
2012 £5,500,000
2013 £4,187,686
Cando1,478 posts since 8 Mar 2012
London London

Anyway neither explains the massive 20% year on year drop for text santa. As I pointed out above Radio 2 raised that alone for Children in Need this year.
Something clearly isn't working!


Year on year drop? NO....................

2011 £4,200,000
2012 £5,500,000
2013 £4,187,686


Do you know what year on year drop means? By those numbers it's actually down 25% on last year. Shocked
Whataday10,214 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
Much of Comic Relief/CiN's money raised is via corporate sponsorship rather than viewer donations.

The concept of Text Santa is far better as a charity platform; the money goes straight to the charities, without the ridiculous admin costs that Children In Need has.


Sorry but that's not true on both counts, 80% of C.I.N on the night total is from on the night donations and amounts the public raised. Children in need has no admin costs and what it does have is offset from interest unlike the Text Santa charities!

Anyway that doesn't explain the massive 20% year on year drop for text santa. As I pointed out above Radio 2 raised that alone for Children in Need this year.


Straight forward 'on the night' donations (which is what Text Santa is all about) make up nowhere near 80% of the amount raised on a Children In Need/Comic Relief night.

"Children in Need has no admin costs and what it does have is offset from interest".... it either has admin costs or it doesn't? It does, and many feel these are excessive, irrelevant of whether covered by interest, considering they just issue grants to other charities which also have their own admin costs. Text Santa manages to do that with NO costs of its own.

And it's not a 'massive' 20% drop when you're only talking about 4 or 5 million. Text Santa will probably always float around the 4/5 million mark each year. It's so close to Christmas, it's never going to attract the big money the BBC charities do..

Ultimately, it was an entertaining show, really well thought out, and managed to raise some money for charity in a straight-forward manner. It's a brilliant thing for a commercial network to put together in the way ITV has.