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Terry Wogan quits Eurovision

(August 2008)

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PT
Put The Telly On
I'd rather Graham wasn't involved at all to be honest, he doesn't have to host EVERY BBC entertainment show you know. (neither does Myleene Klass for that matter but that's another issue).
JO
Jon
nok32uk posted:
(neither does Myleene Klass for that matter but that's another issue).

Other then The One Show for a couple of weeks and Last Choir Standing, what other BBC Entertainment shows has she presented? Rolling Eyes
PT
Put The Telly On
wells posted:
nok32uk posted:
(neither does Myleene Klass for that matter but that's another issue).

Other then The One Show for a couple of weeks and Last Choir Standing, what other BBC Entertainment shows has she presented? Rolling Eyes


Ok maybe not just BBC but what I mean is, she's seen as "versatile". Don't get me wrong, I like Myleene but some would say she's on the TV box rather a lot.
DA
davidmcg
wells posted:
nok32uk posted:
(neither does Myleene Klass for that matter but that's another issue).

Other then The One Show for a couple of weeks and Last Choir Standing, what other BBC Entertainment shows has she presented? Rolling Eyes


New year live also.
RW
Robert Williams Founding member
RJH Glover posted:
According to ESC Today the BBC are looking for a new format and to have Graham Norton at the helm. Click here to view.

Noooooooooooo!!! Anyone but The Norton! His behaviour at the Eurovision Dance Contest last year was rude and patronising, in particular his comment when crossing to the Lithuanian spokesperson, spoken in a heavily sarcastic tone - "Now we cross to Lithuania - land of laughter." If that's what he’s like to their faces, I dread to think what he’d be like when they can’t hear him.

Even Jonathan Woss would be preferable - at least he is a Eurovision fan, whereas for Norton it would probably just be another job to him.

If the worst comes to the worst there’s always the option of putting Radio 2 on for the commentary - but then thanks to the wonders of modern technology it’ll be nigh on impossible to get sound and vision in sync unless switching back to analogue.

But of course, contrary to reports, Wogan has not yet actually confirmed he won't be doing to the commentary - so maybe there's still hope.
JR
jrothwell97
Robert Williams posted:
RJH Glover posted:
According to ESC Today the BBC are looking for a new format and to have Graham Norton at the helm. Click here to view.

Noooooooooooo!!! Anyone but The Norton! His behaviour at the Eurovision Dance Contest last year was rude and patronising, in particular his comment when crossing to the Lithuanian spokesperson, spoken in a heavily sarcastic tone - "Now we cross to Lithuania - land of laughter." If that's what he’s like to their faces, I dread to think what he’d be like when they can’t hear him.

Even Jonathan Woss would be preferable - at least he is a Eurovision fan, whereas for Norton it would probably just be another job to him.

http://images.jonathan-rothwell.co.uk/o_wly.png
(sorry, I couldn't resist...)

Anyway, I hate to say it, but I do agree with you about Ross being better than Norton. Norton's just on everything and is sometimes quite cringeworthy as a regular presenter.

Robert Williams posted:
If the worst comes to the worst there’s always the option of putting Radio 2 on for the commentary - but then thanks to the wonders of modern technology it’ll be nigh on impossible to get sound and vision in sync unless switching back to analogue.

What about putting the Radio 2 feed as an optional audio overlay accessed via the red button?
JC
JCB
Robert Williams posted:
Even Jonathan Woss would be preferable - at least he is a Eurovision fan, whereas for Norton it would probably just be another job to him.


I agree. Norton has said on his show that he hates Eurovision. "It's just too gay - even for me"
WE
Westy2
JCB posted:
Robert Williams posted:
Even Jonathan Woss would be preferable - at least he is a Eurovision fan, whereas for Norton it would probably just be another job to him.


I agree. Norton has said on his show that he hates Eurovision. "It's just too gay - even for me"


WTF Surprised
NG
noggin Founding member
wells posted:
nok32uk posted:
(neither does Myleene Klass for that matter but that's another issue).

Other then The One Show for a couple of weeks and Last Choir Standing, what other BBC Entertainment shows has she presented? Rolling Eyes


She's a lottery regular...
NG
noggin Founding member
RJH Glover posted:
According to ESC Today the BBC are looking for a new format and to have Graham Norton at the helm. Click here to view.
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OK, if a new format goes ahead fair enough and I can stand Graham Norton presenting the UK National Final but I'm not in favour of him commentating. The only person I'd be happy with to replace Sir Terry is Ken Bruce.


Surely the reference to a "New Format" must be for the selection process - the Beeb can't change the format of the contest much...

Sweden now use their selection show presenter as their commentator - but I don't see Norton commentating even if he does present the BBC show(s). The job of commentating is actually quite technically demanding - and having someone who is used to radio (and driving desks etc.) is quite useful - hence Terry and Paddy both doing it. (Paddy has a FiveLive and Local Radio background prior to his telly work, and now does BH)
BR
Brekkie
So I guess according to Mr Wogan the recent troubles in Georgia would be down to them not awarding Russia 12-points in the Eurovision Song Contest.
TT
Tumble Tower
Reboot posted:
1) Does anyone here, hand-on-heart, believe that the UK song (chosen in part by a T. Wogan) DESERVED to win? It was pap, and crap pap at that.

Well I think that Andy Abraham's "Even If" ought to have come round about 15th in this year's ESC. It was better than Spain's entry, or France's weak imitation of "Hippy Hippy Shake".

However "Even If" definitely didn't deserve to win, or even make the top ten. To be quite frank and honest, all six of the songs at "Eurovision - Your Decision 2008", on Saturday 1 March 2008, weren't up to much. None of them deserved to win. Really and truthfully, I wasn't that impressed with any of them, and knew our chances were poor whichever of the six we sent to Belgrade. To me, "Even If" was the best of a bad bunch, but nothing to get excited about. In fact "Even If" sounded to me like an imitation of Estonia's winning entry from 2001 "Everybody" by Tanel Padar/Dave Benton/2XL.

I've said it before over over on the Eurovision 2008 thread that we need to take our selection more seriously, and provide a selection of songs which will impress other countries.

Back in 1997, Katrina and the Waves "Love Shine A Light" impressed me greatly right from the first time I heard it in the run-up to "The Great British Song Contest 1997". That really stood out from the other three, and I wanted it to qualify for, AND WIN, Eurovision Song Contest 1997, so I voted for it in Great British Song Contest 1997. I was so overjoyed to see it win Eurovision Song Contest 1997 with such a runaway victory. On the other hand, since 1999 I don't recall a year when we've had an equally decent song in the UK National Final (which has gone under various names). "Say It Again" by Precious in 1999, "Don't Play That Song Again" by Nicki French in 2000, "No Dream Impossible" by Lindsay Dracass in 2001 and "Cry Baby" by Jemini in 2003 were all "best of a bad lot" no hopers from each year's selection (for your information 1996 to 2003 inclusive viewers had only four songs to choose from each year).

If we have a selection of decent songs to choose from next year (eight or ten) and send the best one, maybe we'll have half a dog's chance of a high placing in next year's Eurovision Song Contest. Jessica Garlick's "Come Back" managed joint 3rd for the UK with Estonia in 2002, so the UK can still do well if it tries.

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