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Terrible weather fixing/sky replacement in programmes

(July 2011)

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MW
Mike W
Whilst I was looking through the BBC programmes sites and found 2point4 Children (an incredibly funny show, for those not familiar, although you should be!) I began watching the series online, as it's not been released on DVD and I've only seen bits of it on UKTV Gold, as was.

I was watching the 4th series (from 1994) and kept on noticing flickers as the last frame of the location rushes was cut from, and throughout the titles. This worried me somewhat as I thought I was going insane, so I downloaded one of the videos and slowed through it in after effects, just on the last frames and confirmed my suspicion they were replacing the skies and fixing the weather, see here:
This is the last shot from the opening titles of Series 4, the penultimate frame from the rush
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and then the frame as it fades into the first scene
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and then later, as Rona goes to pick Bill Porter up, the orange sky moves with the camera shot!

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The questions I ask are; did they know it would be so obvious and why didn't they do a better job of it? and are there any other programmes with such terrible editing/unnecessary sky replacement?
SP
Steve in Pudsey
The moving orange in the second example could be nothing more sinister than a filter on the front of the camera.
BR
Brekkie
I didn't realise 2point4 Children continued as long as it did - eight series, with the final one on the eve of the Millennium. I'm guessing I might have given up on it by then having enjoyed the earlier series.
Last edited by Brekkie on 2 July 2011 5:30pm
VM
VMPhil
The only reason IIRC that it ended so abruptly was due to the fact one month before the final episode, Gary Olsen revealed he had cancer and so from then on there was no doubt there would be no more episodes.
MW
Mike W
The only reason IIRC that it ended so abruptly was due to the fact one month before the final episode, Gary Olsen revealed he had cancer and so from then on there was no doubt there would be no more episodes.


and then he took himself off to die in Australia, such a loss. Perhaps what's more tragic is the fact in November 2009 his wife died of breast cancer (let's not make this one of those threads).

I have to admit I never really warmed to the kid they adopted (I remember watching the last series in 1999). I think that when they start adding to the cast with similar characters the show is on its last legs.
Last edited by Mike W on 2 July 2011 5:18pm
JO
Jon
I suppose My Family more or less replaced this, I know it was written more in an American style, but the show was even set in the same place.
DA
David
I suppose My Family more or less replaced this, I know it was written more in an American style, but the show was even set in the same place.


In 20 years we will be looking back fondly at In with the Flynns. Although I suspect we will say it got stupid after the 8th series.
DA
davidhorman
In your first example, does it fade or does it cut? Looks like to me like the chroma from the first frame of the second scene has leaked into the last frame of the first scene, so more likely it's a problem with the encoding if that's the case - you did say you downloaded it, and there are plenty of gotchas with interlaced material, as this was.

David
MW
Mike W
In your first example, does it fade or does it cut? Looks like to me like the chroma from the first frame of the second scene has leaked into the last frame of the first scene, so more likely it's a problem with the encoding if that's the case - you did say you downloaded it, and there are plenty of gotchas with interlaced material, as this was.

David


It was a fade, but in every other episode of the series it cut into the first scene, and the blue sky just drops to grey on one frame, but all other VT of the house in Chiswick is overcast. Also if you look at the reflection in the cars, it's not like the sky is blue.
PT
Put The Telly On
One of the great sitcoms from the 1990s along with Goodnight Sweetheart and Birds of a Feather (but perhaps the latter were better!)
DO
dosxuk
In your first example, does it fade or does it cut? Looks like to me like the chroma from the first frame of the second scene has leaked into the last frame of the first scene, so more likely it's a problem with the encoding if that's the case - you did say you downloaded it, and there are plenty of gotchas with interlaced material, as this was.

David


It was a fade, but in every other episode of the series it cut into the first scene, and the blue sky just drops to grey on one frame, but all other VT of the house in Chiswick is overcast. Also if you look at the reflection in the cars, it's not like the sky is blue.


I think it's another camera filter, blue at the top this time. Near enough all of the colour drops out in the second frame - look at the blue car - it goes grey.
JO
Jon
One of the great sitcoms from the 1990s along with Goodnight Sweetheart and Birds of a Feather (but perhaps the latter were better!)

What about Dibley and Father Ted?

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