DE
Erm...
- LNN/LWT's famous skyline studio, once home to London Tonight ...?
- The original "This Morning" studio at Liverpool ...?
- That tv programme on five who's name I forget, with Terry Wogan ... come from the old GLC building...?
- Midlands Today at The Mailbox, which has a glass wall though to the newsroom...?
- Pebble Mill at One ? (Admittedly that was all shot in the foyer outside Studio-A but was nonetheless effectively used as a studio)
... reckon I could think of a few more if I was being realy pedantic!
Seriously though, while a lot of studios don't have windows for very good reasons, enough do to make your comment rather a sweeping one...
PatrickT posted:
Studios don't have windows.
Erm...
- LNN/LWT's famous skyline studio, once home to London Tonight ...?
- The original "This Morning" studio at Liverpool ...?
- That tv programme on five who's name I forget, with Terry Wogan ... come from the old GLC building...?
- Midlands Today at The Mailbox, which has a glass wall though to the newsroom...?
- Pebble Mill at One ? (Admittedly that was all shot in the foyer outside Studio-A but was nonetheless effectively used as a studio)
... reckon I could think of a few more if I was being realy pedantic!
Seriously though, while a lot of studios don't have windows for very good reasons, enough do to make your comment rather a sweeping one...
AN
Louise Minchin and a verrrrrrrry hot bloke whose name escapes me.
Manxy posted:
...Missing Live, also presented by Louise Minchin...
Louise Minchin and a verrrrrrrry hot bloke whose name escapes me.
ST
Louise Minchin and a verrrrrrrry hot bloke whose name escapes me.
Would that be:
all new Phil posted:
Manxy posted:
...Missing Live, also presented by Louise Minchin...
Louise Minchin and a verrrrrrrry hot bloke whose name escapes me.
Would that be:
Missing Live website posted:
Missing Live is presented by Louise Minchin (BBC Breakfast) and
Rav Wilding
(former Metropolitan Police Detective and Crimewatch presenter).
PT
I guess it depends what you mean by a studio. All the ones you list were built for another purpose, then had equipment installed to broadcast TV pictures. So yes they're studios. But no they're not the sort of studios that sit around waiting to be booked by producers.
I would call them a set rather than a studio. To me a studio is a space that can host any suitably sized programme. So windows are out.
Also most of the non-purpose built studios have low ceilings (as does the Sunday Life set); so they're not really suitable for most multi-camera shoots.
P
I would call them a set rather than a studio. To me a studio is a space that can host any suitably sized programme. So windows are out.
Also most of the non-purpose built studios have low ceilings (as does the Sunday Life set); so they're not really suitable for most multi-camera shoots.
P
DE
Well, I suppose you're right, traditional television studios (probably all those constructed before, roughly speaking, the 1990s) don't have windows. Lots of producers these days choose to have windows as part of their set and so have had studios constructed with physical windows rather than relying on CSO or PBU to add the view later. The low ceilings thing is a problem. Increasingly it seems, fewer and fewer producers appreciate that high ceilings really improve lighting and shooting. Look how much better the lighting of breakfast became when they moved into TC7, a 'traditional' studio built in the 60s. Lots of people on this forum alone remarked on how much better the lighting was when they moved. I think, even N6 has slightmly more height compared to N8 - again, the News Channel's lighting is much better now than it was when based in N8.
Welcome to the forum though PatrickT, as you can see we're all a bunch of argumentative pedants...
PatrickT posted:
I guess it depends what you mean by a studio. All the ones you list were built for another purpose, then had equipment installed to broadcast TV pictures. So yes they're studios. But no they're not the sort of studios that sit around waiting to be booked by producers.
I would call them a set rather than a studio. To me a studio is a space that can host any suitably sized programme. So windows are out.
Also most of the non-purpose built studios have low ceilings (as does the Sunday Life set); so they're not really suitable for most multi-camera shoots.
P
I would call them a set rather than a studio. To me a studio is a space that can host any suitably sized programme. So windows are out.
Also most of the non-purpose built studios have low ceilings (as does the Sunday Life set); so they're not really suitable for most multi-camera shoots.
P
Well, I suppose you're right, traditional television studios (probably all those constructed before, roughly speaking, the 1990s) don't have windows. Lots of producers these days choose to have windows as part of their set and so have had studios constructed with physical windows rather than relying on CSO or PBU to add the view later. The low ceilings thing is a problem. Increasingly it seems, fewer and fewer producers appreciate that high ceilings really improve lighting and shooting. Look how much better the lighting of breakfast became when they moved into TC7, a 'traditional' studio built in the 60s. Lots of people on this forum alone remarked on how much better the lighting was when they moved. I think, even N6 has slightmly more height compared to N8 - again, the News Channel's lighting is much better now than it was when based in N8.
Welcome to the forum though PatrickT, as you can see we're all a bunch of argumentative pedants...
NG
You are confusing two separate studio locations.
The main MTV Studios operation is the former TVam building in Camden, which has proper studios, none of which have windows. This is where Missing Live comes from.
TMi used to come from the MTV studio built in Leicester Square (in a former night club I think) with full windows - but which was a very odd shape, which was a very poor space for many shows. AIUI MTV are selling, or have sold this? TMi now comes from TV Centre, using TC9 - the former CBBC presentation studio which CBBC have on long-term hire I believe.
BTW - if you want to see real studios with windows - the various US network street side studios in New York are worth a look. Some are converted office space - but some are much better than this - with angled windows (to reduce reflections), higher ceilings (to allow decent lighting angles), and decent floors.
noggin
Founding member
Manxy posted:
Didn't think this needed it's own thread. but Missing Live, also presented by Louise Minchin, comes from MTV Studios, which also has a studio with a very large window, which was used for the 1st series of TMi.
You are confusing two separate studio locations.
The main MTV Studios operation is the former TVam building in Camden, which has proper studios, none of which have windows. This is where Missing Live comes from.
TMi used to come from the MTV studio built in Leicester Square (in a former night club I think) with full windows - but which was a very odd shape, which was a very poor space for many shows. AIUI MTV are selling, or have sold this? TMi now comes from TV Centre, using TC9 - the former CBBC presentation studio which CBBC have on long-term hire I believe.
BTW - if you want to see real studios with windows - the various US network street side studios in New York are worth a look. Some are converted office space - but some are much better than this - with angled windows (to reduce reflections), higher ceilings (to allow decent lighting angles), and decent floors.
NG
Totally agree.
With a few exceptions - the Pebble Mill Foyer, and possibly the former London Tonight studio - most of the locations listings were existing spaces converted for studio use, rather than originally designed to work as studios - and I think that includes the old Albert Dock home of This Morning in Liverpool.
The Pebble Mill Foyer was built with broadcasting in mind from the start - and whilst it may not actually have been called a studio, it had many of the requirements for proper broadcast use taken into account when it was built.
One area people always ignore in this area is sound. Real studios are built with sound as well as lighting and cameras in mind - whereas most converted spaces are usually created with no thought to sound - so you often end up with something that looks OK, but sounds terrible...
(Windows - being flat glass surfaces - are the amongst the worst, most reflective surfaces you can have in a studio)
noggin
Founding member
PatrickT posted:
I guess it depends what you mean by a studio. All the ones you list were built for another purpose, then had equipment installed to broadcast TV pictures. So yes they're studios. But no they're not the sort of studios that sit around waiting to be booked by producers.
I would call them a set rather than a studio. To me a studio is a space that can host any suitably sized programme. So windows are out.
Also most of the non-purpose built studios have low ceilings (as does the Sunday Life set); so they're not really suitable for most multi-camera shoots.
P
I would call them a set rather than a studio. To me a studio is a space that can host any suitably sized programme. So windows are out.
Also most of the non-purpose built studios have low ceilings (as does the Sunday Life set); so they're not really suitable for most multi-camera shoots.
P
Totally agree.
With a few exceptions - the Pebble Mill Foyer, and possibly the former London Tonight studio - most of the locations listings were existing spaces converted for studio use, rather than originally designed to work as studios - and I think that includes the old Albert Dock home of This Morning in Liverpool.
The Pebble Mill Foyer was built with broadcasting in mind from the start - and whilst it may not actually have been called a studio, it had many of the requirements for proper broadcast use taken into account when it was built.
One area people always ignore in this area is sound. Real studios are built with sound as well as lighting and cameras in mind - whereas most converted spaces are usually created with no thought to sound - so you often end up with something that looks OK, but sounds terrible...
(Windows - being flat glass surfaces - are the amongst the worst, most reflective surfaces you can have in a studio)