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(March 2012)

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Cando

I would argue the format completely changed with The Saturday Show though. The classic BBC format was phoning in to ask guests questions, reviews of music/films, viewers' letters, etc. Obviously this was tweaked heavily along the way but the final series of L&K and then The Saturday Show onwards pretty much abandoned all of this in favour of more studio games, sketches and live performances. Not that there hadn't been any of this previously but the balance tipped quite heavily and after the awful Steve and Emma series that format was pretty much binned. .


Spot on imo. I would agree with all of this.


The irony of the situation was that in the 20th anniversary documentary Chris Bellinger said "it has to keep evolving to stay fresh", or words to that effect. In the event that was exactly what they didn't do and for a good four years or so ITV won the ratings battle.


Yeah according to the following it took 3 years and 3 months for the BBC to win the slot back with The Saturday Show.
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New blow to ITV as BBC's Saturday Show beats SM:TV
Monday, 10 February 2003

ITV has lost its Saturday morning children's TV supremacy as the BBC's 'The Saturday Show' celebrates toppling rival 'SM:TV' in overall individual audience figures.

'The Saturday Show' attracted an audience of 1.1m on February to 'SM:TV''s 1m and marks the first time that the BBC has beaten ITV in the overall figures since November 1999 when 'The Saturday Show''s predecessor, 'Live & Kicking', was on air.

According to the BBC, 'The Saturday Show' attracted a 29.3% share among children's figures -- almost double 'SM:TV''s 16% share.

Annette Williams, executive producer of 'The Saturday Show', said: "We are thrilled with the news and will definitely be popping the champagne to celebrate. New presenters Fearne Cotton and Simon Grant are obviously proving to be very popular."


While the overall averages were close, its interesting to note the big difference in Children.
IIRC when Ministry of Mayhem launched its target audience was solely under 12's in order to close the big gap among this audience.
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Steve in Pudsey
Cando posted:
They were terrible. Up there with Coleen Nolan and Twiggy as the worst replacements ever!


Anyone remember the BBC1 Saturday morning kids show which featured Bernie Nolan? On The Waterfront, from a temporary studio in Liverpool with Andrew O'Connor and Kate Copstick.

Arguably the best Saturday morning summer filler
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paul_hadley
Not one to be a killjoy but shouldn't the Saturday morning kids TV posts be in a separate thread as they're not really anything to do with Sunday Brunch? Surprised
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Jon
I'd argue in this instance no. The conversation was born out of talk on Sunday Brunch it will soon die down and this thread will get back on topic.
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paul_hadley
Fair point.
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Brekkie
I think the fact Saturday morning shows appealed to an audience beyond kids is a reason they should have been kept - both from a BBC PSB view of providing family entertainment at the weekend, and from a commercial view of having adults watching "kids" shows surely brings in more advertising.

The cookery dros that has replaced it appeals to a much smaller market - a market which is already well served.
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A former member
what are the ratings like for

* Saturday kitchen?
* something for the weekend before is jumping ship?
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amosc100
what are the ratings like for

* Saturday kitchen?
* something for the weekend before is jumping ship?


Something for the weekend didn't jump ship- it was a casualty of the BBC QF cuts - replacing it with cheaper repeats of Saturday Kitchen!
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A former member
what are the ratings like for

* Saturday kitchen?
* something for the weekend before is jumping ship?


Something for the weekend didn't jump ship- it was a casualty of the BBC QF cuts - replacing it with cheaper repeats of Saturday Kitchen!


That just POOR for bbc two.

52 days later

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A former member
Its really is getting into its own, I never watch the bbc two version. It seems to have the right mix of people and guest and cooking,
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VMPhil
I'm not sure, I feel as though there needs to be a female presenter in there, I mean the studio's not exactly Soccer AM is it?
Last edited by VMPhil on 20 May 2012 4:51pm
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A former member
I'm not sure, I feel as though there needs to be a female presenter in there, the studio's not really Soccer AM is it?


I was just thinking that aswell, maybe on with um busting talents Wink

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