ST
But when they do produce content just for Scotland, people complain that they are missing a repeat of Paul O' Grady or something. Because of the way ITV is now run,, there are no times for regional opt out (apart from the news) so STV, like all other ITV regions, has very few opportunities for showing local programmes. I suspect that in the longer term, they will start to produce more local programmes which will just be available on the STV Player but at the moment, they are doing good business producing content for other broadcasters.
STV have to meet certain broadcasting quotas and it is expected by viewers in Scotland that STV will produce content for them and them only so it stands to reason to suggest that STV are bothered.
But when they do produce content just for Scotland, people complain that they are missing a repeat of Paul O' Grady or something. Because of the way ITV is now run,, there are no times for regional opt out (apart from the news) so STV, like all other ITV regions, has very few opportunities for showing local programmes. I suspect that in the longer term, they will start to produce more local programmes which will just be available on the STV Player but at the moment, they are doing good business producing content for other broadcasters.
TE
Yeah, but STV do produce content that is only expected to be shown on STV. Perhaps Jon doesn't know that.
But when they do produce content just for Scotland, people complain that they are missing a repeat of Paul O' Grady or something. Because of the way ITV is now run,, there are no times for regional opt out (apart from the news) so STV, like all other ITV regions, has very few opportunities for showing local programmes. I suspect that in the longer term, they will start to produce more local programmes which will just be available on the STV Player but at the moment, they are doing good business producing content for other broadcasters.
That's fine but what I find annoying - and pointless tbh - is people labelling STV produced output as cheap when it can only ever be cheap. As I said and you have also alluded to, the popularity of ITV programming prevents STV from overhauling the schedule and a 7.30pm slot is what they are basically stuck with when it comes to opt outs. This more or less rules out drama and ensures "cheap" documentaries.
Regarding viewers moaning about Paul O'Grady not being shown, I assume you to mean the most recent example? I would think that unless viewers were aware of it either via STV somehow foolishly trailing it (did they?) or by consulting the ITV schedule for that particular day, nobody really cared. Yes, most would have worked out that the High Road tribute wasn't being shown in England but they can't expect STV to make programmes for them and not have to opt out from the ITV schedule at some point.
I would imagine that it's more economically viable for STV Studios to produce a drama that can be shown UK wide like The Victim for BBC One than make a drama that only going to shown on STV.
Yeah, but STV do produce content that is only expected to be shown on STV. Perhaps Jon doesn't know that.
STV have to meet certain broadcasting quotas and it is expected by viewers in Scotland that STV will produce content for them and them only so it stands to reason to suggest that STV are bothered.
But when they do produce content just for Scotland, people complain that they are missing a repeat of Paul O' Grady or something. Because of the way ITV is now run,, there are no times for regional opt out (apart from the news) so STV, like all other ITV regions, has very few opportunities for showing local programmes. I suspect that in the longer term, they will start to produce more local programmes which will just be available on the STV Player but at the moment, they are doing good business producing content for other broadcasters.
That's fine but what I find annoying - and pointless tbh - is people labelling STV produced output as cheap when it can only ever be cheap. As I said and you have also alluded to, the popularity of ITV programming prevents STV from overhauling the schedule and a 7.30pm slot is what they are basically stuck with when it comes to opt outs. This more or less rules out drama and ensures "cheap" documentaries.
Regarding viewers moaning about Paul O'Grady not being shown, I assume you to mean the most recent example? I would think that unless viewers were aware of it either via STV somehow foolishly trailing it (did they?) or by consulting the ITV schedule for that particular day, nobody really cared. Yes, most would have worked out that the High Road tribute wasn't being shown in England but they can't expect STV to make programmes for them and not have to opt out from the ITV schedule at some point.
WI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJx_BBmID5c&feature=youtu.be
Aaaages ago there was a great video with some splitscreen gallery action and all of the different STV regions during the news. Does anyone have ANY idea where that was? I can't find it on YouTube at all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJx_BBmID5c&feature=youtu.be
ST
Regarding viewers moaning about Paul O'Grady not being shown, I assume you to mean the most recent example? I would think that unless viewers were aware of it either via STV somehow foolishly trailing it (did they?) or by consulting the ITV schedule for that particular day, nobody really cared. Yes, most would have worked out that the High Road tribute wasn't being shown in England but they can't expect STV to make programmes for them and not have to opt out from the ITV schedule at some point.
Exactly. It's not hard to find out what's on ITV, though as I think most digital services carry national ITV on their programme guides with audio description. It's probably just a case of scrolling up the EPG to see what's on. Personally I'm glad to see more local programmes being produced.
Regarding viewers moaning about Paul O'Grady not being shown, I assume you to mean the most recent example? I would think that unless viewers were aware of it either via STV somehow foolishly trailing it (did they?) or by consulting the ITV schedule for that particular day, nobody really cared. Yes, most would have worked out that the High Road tribute wasn't being shown in England but they can't expect STV to make programmes for them and not have to opt out from the ITV schedule at some point.
Exactly. It's not hard to find out what's on ITV, though as I think most digital services carry national ITV on their programme guides with audio description. It's probably just a case of scrolling up the EPG to see what's on. Personally I'm glad to see more local programmes being produced.
JO
That's not true in the slightest...
Don't STV produce Catchphrase for ITV now, which with repeats seems to be
virtually on all year round now.
That's not true in the slightest...
KE
kez19
I would imagine that it's more economically viable for STV Studios to produce a drama that can be shown UK wide like The Victim for BBC One than make a drama that only going to shown on STV.
Yeah, but STV do produce content that is only expected to be shown on STV. Perhaps Jon doesn't know that.
STV have to meet certain broadcasting quotas and it is expected by viewers in Scotland that STV will produce content for them and them only so it stands to reason to suggest that STV are bothered.
But when they do produce content just for Scotland, people complain that they are missing a repeat of Paul O' Grady or something. Because of the way ITV is now run,, there are no times for regional opt out (apart from the news) so STV, like all other ITV regions, has very few opportunities for showing local programmes. I suspect that in the longer term, they will start to produce more local programmes which will just be available on the STV Player but at the moment, they are doing good business producing content for other broadcasters.
That's fine but what I find annoying - and pointless tbh - is people labelling STV produced output as cheap when it can only ever be cheap. As I said and you have also alluded to, the popularity of ITV programming prevents STV from overhauling the schedule and a 7.30pm slot is what they are basically stuck with when it comes to opt outs. This more or less rules out drama and ensures "cheap" documentaries.
Regarding viewers moaning about Paul O'Grady not being shown, I assume you to mean the most recent example? I would think that unless viewers were aware of it either via STV somehow foolishly trailing it (did they?) or by consulting the ITV schedule for that particular day, nobody really cared. Yes, most would have worked out that the High Road tribute wasn't being shown in England but they can't expect STV to make programmes for them and not have to opt out from the ITV schedule at some point.
Just to pick up a point here however, they opt out a show (fine), but why not air the opt after 11pm (ITV) and for it to be made available via their player? (its not rocket science), but whenever they start running shows (be it already started on ITV), they'll hop in for no reason and won't show previous episodes either (again why have a programme available for the area when you can't be that bothered to even go back?). In terms of programming even if we have to go back a few years ago - Tales From Northumberland went so far and wasn't completed, Barging around Britain was another but I guess viewers would be better with things like that watch ITV instead/elsewhere or on ITV3/4 at least.
STV in terms of programming they do themselves (opt outs) its pretty obvious as you only need to look at their own appeal show which every year looks like someone has been to a local Santas Grotto from a shopping centre. I said this before but I am surprised why STV don't attempt making dramas than reviving old ones - as this would be something that surely could be made for the UK/international markets (seems more like here that can't be bothered)
Also can we stop saying these "opt outs" are local.... how can STV programming be "local"? I stay in Dundee its not that local to me if its broadcasting from Glasgow is it? Maybe people should say regional instead than local opt outs? Under STV Grampian no longer exists for me and again I only get news and its mostly broadcasting from Glasgow these days.
GM
@kez19 STV is a commercial business. Their aim is to make money by pleasing advertisers. They don't have a license to print money (as the old saying goes). STV [Studios] do make new drama series, not just for the ITV network. The STV News at Six is the most watched news programme in the country, and came from Glasgow for a good while recently due to a global pandemic - but you already know that. 
You clearly have something against STV, especially going by your posts over on DS, constantly rambling on about how STV don't show an entire series of filler programmes.
STV are doing well in the current climate!
You clearly have something against STV, especially going by your posts over on DS, constantly rambling on about how STV don't show an entire series of filler programmes.
STV are doing well in the current climate!
KE
kez19
@kez19 STV is a commercial business. Their aim is to make money by pleasing advertisers. They don't have a license to print money (as the old saying goes). STV [Studios] do make new drama series, not just for the ITV network. The STV News at Six is the most watched news programme in the country, and came from Glasgow for a good while recently due to a global pandemic - but you already know that.
You clearly have something against STV, especially going by your posts over on DS, constantly rambling on about how STV don't show an entire series of filler programmes.
STV are doing well in the current climate!
You clearly have something against STV, especially going by your posts over on DS, constantly rambling on about how STV don't show an entire series of filler programmes.
STV are doing well in the current climate!
Ummm I think you missed my point did you not? Why do you always come back with something I have against STV? I stated an opinion once more but yet you say I have something against STV? Lets not get childish here lets be civil here?
So what in terms of what I said on DS, I am no longer on that forum but well done Sherlock on looking me up I guess you are some sort of stalker? (sad that you done this ... oh dear....), you come across as if you speak for STV, ie work for them from what I gather anyway....
I like the fact however that because I state things that go on for my region you couldn't give a toss about but lets be honest its the same for the radio stations too, but of course its the same argument anyway what happens elsewhere no one cares but its not until it hits the Glasgow Central belt its... panic stations!! I give up I really do...
Nevermind anyway whats the point in speaking on forums, it seems like a one sided debate these days go from one forum to another and you come up against the exact same thing you leave another froum for but its good to be getting accused of stating an opinion, yet no wonder its 2020 opinions don't matter as long as you bat for the one team these days.... i'm gone...
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GM
So what in terms of what I said on DS, I am no longer on that forum but well done Sherlock on looking me up I guess you are some sort of stalker? (sad that you done this ... oh dear....), you come across as if you speak for STV, ie work for them from what I gather anyway....
It's certainly not me being childish here, accusing people of stalking! I stopped posting in DS because of that thread. Anything positive being said about STV was always shot down.
I wish I had the chance to work at somewhere like STV, alas, I work in retail - hence me being awake at 4.30am getting ready for work.
We are clearly not going to agree on anything here, so let's just leave it at that, as it's heading way off topic.
So what in terms of what I said on DS, I am no longer on that forum but well done Sherlock on looking me up I guess you are some sort of stalker? (sad that you done this ... oh dear....), you come across as if you speak for STV, ie work for them from what I gather anyway....
It's certainly not me being childish here, accusing people of stalking! I stopped posting in DS because of that thread. Anything positive being said about STV was always shot down.
I wish I had the chance to work at somewhere like STV, alas, I work in retail - hence me being awake at 4.30am getting ready for work.
We are clearly not going to agree on anything here, so let's just leave it at that, as it's heading way off topic.