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scottishtv Founding member
elmarko posted:
Aaaages ago there was a great video with some splitscreen gallery action and all of the different STV regions during the news. Does anyone have ANY idea where that was? I can't find it on YouTube at all.

Yes, it was from 2016 and highlighted in this post here by member Bruce12345. The webpage still exists, but unfortunately it looks like the video is gone: https://news.stv.tv/archive/1351411-behind-the-scenes-watch-how-the-stv-news-programmes-are-made
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GMc
Universal_r posted:
tellyblues posted:
kernow posted:

That might be the case if they were showing it in a slot normally used for regional programming, but it's actually being shown as an opt-out from Paul O'Grady's Animal Orphans, and is followed by a repeat of Sean's Scotland.

Paul O'Grady: for the Love of Dogs has been shown in that slot for the last few weeks, which STV haven't opted out of.


Animal Orphans is a repeat whereas Love of Dogs wasn't so that could be a reason.

The High Road tribute is getting a pasting elsewhere - comments about it scraping the barrel and STV being out of touch with their audience.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. Its no different to the old episodes of EastEnders, Corrie, River City etc that have been aired recently and it looks like location filming has been done for it (photo of Emma Cameron in Luss on the digiguide page) so it's not all just old footage.

Why have they opted out of a relatively popular programme and not played the documentary in the slot that Scotland tonight is usually in. This is just my opinion but I think people would rather watch a programme about dogs since we’re a nation of dog lovers than a documentary about a show many of the younger generation won’t have even heard of Including myself and then a repeat of Sean’s Scotland.


I think it's quite obvious why they have chosen the 8PM slot on Wednesday - to gain a lead-in from Corrie. STV will hope the soap audience sticks around for the documentary. Whereas in the 7.30 slot on Thursday, it would be following You've Been Framed.
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Universal_r
GMc posted:
Universal_r posted:
tellyblues posted:

Animal Orphans is a repeat whereas Love of Dogs wasn't so that could be a reason.

The High Road tribute is getting a pasting elsewhere - comments about it scraping the barrel and STV being out of touch with their audience.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. Its no different to the old episodes of EastEnders, Corrie, River City etc that have been aired recently and it looks like location filming has been done for it (photo of Emma Cameron in Luss on the digiguide page) so it's not all just old footage.

Why have they opted out of a relatively popular programme and not played the documentary in the slot that Scotland tonight is usually in. This is just my opinion but I think people would rather watch a programme about dogs since we’re a nation of dog lovers than a documentary about a show many of the younger generation won’t have even heard of Including myself and then a repeat of Sean’s Scotland.


I think it's quite obvious why they have chosen the 8PM slot on Wednesday - to gain a lead-in from Corrie. STV will hope the soap audience sticks around for the documentary. Whereas in the 7.30 slot on Thursday, it would be following You've Been Framed.

But will “Scotland loved the high road” really entice viewers to stick around. It’s only going to really appeal to older generations.
UN
Universal_r
scottishtv posted:
elmarko posted:
Aaaages ago there was a great video with some splitscreen gallery action and all of the different STV regions during the news. Does anyone have ANY idea where that was? I can't find it on YouTube at all.

Yes, it was from 2016 and highlighted in this post here by member Bruce12345. The webpage still exists, but unfortunately it looks like the video is gone: https://news.stv.tv/archive/1351411-behind-the-scenes-watch-how-the-stv-news-programmes-are-made

That’s a shame it was a really good video.
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stuart621
Universal_r posted:
GMc posted:
Universal_r posted:
Why have they opted out of a relatively popular programme and not played the documentary in the slot that Scotland tonight is usually in. This is just my opinion but I think people would rather watch a programme about dogs since we’re a nation of dog lovers than a documentary about a show many of the younger generation won’t have even heard of Including myself and then a repeat of Sean’s Scotland.


I think it's quite obvious why they have chosen the 8PM slot on Wednesday - to gain a lead-in from Corrie. STV will hope the soap audience sticks around for the documentary. Whereas in the 7.30 slot on Thursday, it would be following You've Been Framed.

But will “Scotland loved the high road” really entice viewers to stick around. It’s only going to really appeal to older generations.


Whenever STV posts something about Take the High Road on Facebook or Twitter, it gets loads of comments from people who have fond memories of the show. It was very popular throughout the UK and the fact that they are putting it all on the STV Player suggests that there is demand to watch it again. I think this programme is likely to have a lot of viewers.
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tellyblues
Universal_r posted:
tellyblues posted:
kernow posted:

That might be the case if they were showing it in a slot normally used for regional programming, but it's actually being shown as an opt-out from Paul O'Grady's Animal Orphans, and is followed by a repeat of Sean's Scotland.

Paul O'Grady: for the Love of Dogs has been shown in that slot for the last few weeks, which STV haven't opted out of.


Animal Orphans is a repeat whereas Love of Dogs wasn't so that could be a reason.

The High Road tribute is getting a pasting elsewhere - comments about it scraping the barrel and STV being out of touch with their audience.

Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. Its no different to the old episodes of EastEnders, Corrie, River City etc that have been aired recently and it looks like location filming has been done for it (photo of Emma Cameron in Luss on the digiguide page) so it's not all just old footage.

Why have they opted out of a relatively popular programme and not played the documentary in the slot that Scotland tonight is usually in. This is just my opinion but I think people would rather watch a programme about dogs since we’re a nation of dog lovers than a documentary about a show many of the younger generation won’t have even heard of Including myself and then a repeat of Sean’s Scotland.


GMc's post above possibly alludes to why. As does the fact that Animal Orphans is a repeat (first shown in 2014).

Also, looking ahead to Wed 19th, it appears the programme is as dispensable to ITV as it is STV, being dropped for the new series of Heathrow: Britain's Busiest Airport, so there was no point in STV tagging along when the schedule could be better used.

With limited opt-out opportunities and STV needing to minimise the amount of backlash from viewers (because there ALWAYS will be some), what is to happen is perhaps the best solution.

Regarding the opt-out window on Thursdays where Scotland Tonight and Tonight usually go head-to-head, you raise a good point about the timing of opt-outs. Currently, ITV are showing Eat Shop Save here. STV haven't aired the first two eps of this because Tonight took its summer break a fortnight earlier. In an ideal world - and irrespective of which day they showed the High Road tribute - STV would be skipping Eat Shop Save entirely to avoid confusion for viewers but, hey-ho, they aren't and are dipping in halfway through the series.

High Road and Sean's Scotland aren't exactly earth-shattering I agree but what is the alternative?

It was announced this week that STV's output for non-current affairs programming in 2019 decreased by 90% (!) to 40 hours compared to 403 hours in 2018. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/200502/media-nations-2020-scotland-report.pdf

BBC Scotland has swallowed up the market.
GE
thegeek Founding member
elmarko posted:
Aaaages ago there was a great video with some splitscreen gallery action and all of the different STV regions during the news. Does anyone have ANY idea where that was? I can't find it on YouTube at all.

I reposted it a couple of weeks ago - it's the most recent 'topic video' in this thread! (top right if you're on desktop, bottom of the page on mobile).

It's here to save you digging further.
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elmarko
Wot a ledge, etc.

Edit: great work YouTube search! How did it not find that?

Edit 2: oh look, there I am in the comments!
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gottago
tellyblues posted:


It was announced this week that STV's output for non-current affairs programming in 2019 decreased by 90% (!) to 40 hours compared to 403 hours in 2018. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/200502/media-nations-2020-scotland-report.pdf

BBC Scotland has swallowed up the market.

That's got to be because of the closure of STV2 in 2018 surely? I think they've just lumped all of their former local output in with the main channel. Unless they used to have hundreds more hours on the main channel that I wasn't aware of!

Although interesting that the 2013 figures are so high when it was 2014 that STV Glasgow launched.
GE
thegeek Founding member
elmarko posted:

Edit: great work YouTube search! How did it not find that?


It's unlisted now - I think I may have (re)found it by trawling through my YouTube or Chrome history, or possibly posted it to Facebook at the time.
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tellyblues
gottago posted:
tellyblues posted:


It was announced this week that STV's output for non-current affairs programming in 2019 decreased by 90% (!) to 40 hours compared to 403 hours in 2018. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/200502/media-nations-2020-scotland-report.pdf

BBC Scotland has swallowed up the market.

That's got to be because of the closure of STV2 in 2018 surely? I think they've just lumped all of their former local output in with the main channel. Unless they used to have hundreds more hours on the main channel that I wasn't aware of!

Although interesting that the 2013 figures are so high when it was 2014 that STV Glasgow launched.


Yeah. STV2 could be it.

Although, it's still fair to say that BBC Scotland has greatly limited what STV can achieve in terms of stories/subjects covered. On the plus side, it has shown what are commercially unviable given their extremely poor viewing figures.
UN
Universal_r
tellyblues posted:
Universal_r posted:
tellyblues posted:

Animal Orphans is a repeat whereas Love of Dogs wasn't so that could be a reason.


Personally, I don't see anything wrong with it. Its no different to the old episodes of EastEnders, Corrie, River City etc that have been aired recently and it looks like location filming has been done for it (photo of Emma Cameron in Luss on the digiguide page) so it's not all just old footage.

Why have they opted out of a relatively popular programme and not played the documentary in the slot that Scotland tonight is usually in. This is just my opinion but I think people would rather watch a programme about dogs since we’re a nation of dog lovers than a documentary about a show many of the younger generation won’t have even heard of Including myself and then a repeat of Sean’s Scotland.


quote] Also, looking ahead to Wed 19th, it appears the programme is as dispensable to ITV as it is STV, being dropped for the new series of Heathrow: Britain's Busiest Airport, so there was no point in STV tagging along when the schedule could be better used.[


Not sure what you mean here are stv not carrying the new series of Heathrow: Britain’s busiest AirPort?

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It was announced this week that STV's output for non-current affairs programming in 2019 decreased by 90% (!) to 40 hours compared to 403 hours in 2018. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/__data/assets/pdf_file/0009/200502/media-nations-2020-scotland-report.pdf
BBC Scotland has swallowed up the market.


Wow that’s crazy how many local programs have stv had in the last year?

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