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all new Phil3,194 posts since 12 Feb 2005
Granada North West Today
I do wonder if replacing the popularity vote with an app scoring mechanism would help on that, so viewers score each contestant live and their average score is the viewers half of the score.

Yes, some people would give the rubbish celebs 10s and the goods ones they don't like 0 but overall I think it would work better. The current system basically encourages you to vote for the people at the bottom of the leaderboard rather than for those at the top.

Would not work that well and would also cut off those without the internet and the BBC would be weary of that.
And of course the BBC would never tell us the scores the viewers gave so scrutiny could occur.

I think it would work brilliantly. And if the BBC was weary [sic] of cutting off those without the internet, iPlayer wouldn’t exist.
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BM11966 posts since 2 Jun 2017
London London
I do wonder if replacing the popularity vote with an app scoring mechanism would help on that, so viewers score each contestant live and their average score is the viewers half of the score.

Yes, some people would give the rubbish celebs 10s and the goods ones they don't like 0 but overall I think it would work better. The current system basically encourages you to vote for the people at the bottom of the leaderboard rather than for those at the top.

Would not work that well and would also cut off those without the internet and the BBC would be weary of that.
And of course the BBC would never tell us the scores the viewers gave so scrutiny could occur.

I think it would work brilliantly. And if the BBC was weary [sic] of cutting off those without the internet, iPlayer wouldn’t exist.

Programs are still broadcast on TV.
Lou Scannon1,134 posts since 1 Jan 2016
HTV West Points West
I do wonder if replacing the popularity vote with an app scoring mechanism would help on that, so viewers score each contestant live and their average score is the viewers half of the score.

Yes, some people would give the rubbish celebs 10s and the goods ones they don't like 0 but overall I think it would work better. The current system basically encourages you to vote for the people at the bottom of the leaderboard rather than for those at the top.

Would not work that well and would also cut off those without the internet and the BBC would be weary of that.
And of course the BBC would never tell us the scores the viewers gave so scrutiny could occur.

I think it would work brilliantly. And if the BBC was weary [sic] of cutting off those without the internet, iPlayer wouldn’t exist.


Eh?

In what way does the mere existence of iPlayer cut off non-internet-savvy people? It's not as if all the linear broadcast BBC channels (apart from Three, obv) have been closed in favour of online-only.

I'm sure that the broad target demographic of a show like Strictly includes a lot of older/elderly licence fee payers who will go to their graves having never embraced computers/internet/smartphones/apps etc. It is totally unjustifiable to render them unable to participate in Strictly voting (if they wish to), by making it e.g. app only.
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DVB Cornwall8,332 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
I'd like to see this tried in another of the franchise users first. Not withstanding it does look interesting. Although I'm not in favour of reducing the show to one night, app voting could well help that easily if it was needed by the BBC. Melfest has shown how it could be demonstrated on screen too. I think 'votegate' is still sufficiently current in memory though in broadcaster and regulators minds to even now prohibit app use.
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BM11966 posts since 2 Jun 2017
London London
I'd like to see this tried in another of the franchise users first. Not withstanding it does look interesting. Although I'm not in favour of reducing the show to one night, app voting could well help that easily if it was needed by the BBC. Melfest has shown how it could be demonstrated on screen too. I think 'votegate' is still sufficiently current in memory though in broadcaster and regulators minds to even now prohibit app use.

App voting is used in the UK by the ITV shows alongside phone voting.

Melfest gets a lot of complaints re the results it generates.
BM11966 posts since 2 Jun 2017
London London
Would not work that well and would also cut off those without the internet and the BBC would be weary of that.
And of course the BBC would never tell us the scores the viewers gave so scrutiny could occur.

I think it would work brilliantly. And if the BBC was weary [sic] of cutting off those without the internet, iPlayer wouldn’t exist.


Eh?

In what way does the mere existence of iPlayer cut off non-internet-savvy people? It's not as if all the linear broadcast BBC channels (apart from Three, obv) have been closed in favour of online-only.

I'm sure that the broad target demographic of a show like Strictly includes a lot of older/elderly licence fee payers who will go to their graves having never embraced computers/internet/smartphones/apps etc. It is totally unjustifiable to render them unable to participate in Strictly voting (if they wish to), by making it e.g. app only.

The Daily Mail would run with it and find someone to look sad or angry at the decision.
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Brekkie31,686 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
I'd like to see this tried in another of the franchise users first. Not withstanding it does look interesting. Although I'm not in favour of reducing the show to one night, app voting could well help that easily if it was needed by the BBC. Melfest has shown how it could be demonstrated on screen too. I think 'votegate' is still sufficiently current in memory though in broadcaster and regulators minds to even now prohibit app use.

App voting is used in the UK by the ITV shows alongside phone voting.

Melfest gets a lot of complaints re the results it generates.

Because people like yourself have nothing better to do than complain.


I do agree Strictly isn't the sort of show to lead with this sort of thing - it would probably be more logical for Dancing on Ice to get in there first considering they already have app voting in play (I don't think the BBC even have a Strictly app, certainly not for voting, though you can vote online). It would also need testing before going live for an entire series - they could do it for a year as "just for fun" just to see where abouts the scores are landing. I was thinking you get an average score, round it up to the nearest .25 then multiply by 4 to get a score that balances the judges, but if the viewers are harsh enough that a score in the high 30s isn't likely they might need to stick to the ranking system.
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BM11966 posts since 2 Jun 2017
London London
I'd like to see this tried in another of the franchise users first. Not withstanding it does look interesting. Although I'm not in favour of reducing the show to one night, app voting could well help that easily if it was needed by the BBC. Melfest has shown how it could be demonstrated on screen too. I think 'votegate' is still sufficiently current in memory though in broadcaster and regulators minds to even now prohibit app use.

App voting is used in the UK by the ITV shows alongside phone voting.

Melfest gets a lot of complaints re the results it generates.

Because people like yourself have nothing better to do than complain.


I do agree Strictly isn't the sort of show to lead with this sort of thing - it would probably be more logical for Dancing on Ice to get in there first considering they already have app voting in play (I don't think the BBC even have a Strictly app, certainly not for voting, though you can vote online). It would also need testing before going live for an entire series - they could do it for a year as "just for fun" just to see where abouts the scores are landing. I was thinking you get an average score, round it up to the nearest .25 then multiply by 4 to get a score that balances the judges, but if the viewers are harsh enough that a score in the high 30s isn't likely they might need to stick to the ranking system.

They woulf be too much extremes - lots of 10's and 1's - more so as Strictly now has contestants who have a tech savey loyal following behind them - the lowest score would become a way of voting to evict (rather than vote to save.) through the back door.