Just a small constitutional matter ....our Royal Family is also theirs you know. Australia is still a Commonwealth country which means one queen for all ! ..so no 'adopting '(literal or otherwise) about it !
Just a small constitutional matter ....our Royal Family is also theirs you know. Australia is still a Commonwealth country which means one queen for all ! ..so no 'adopting '(literal or otherwise) about it !
doesn't seem to work well with some Commonwealth countries i.e. Canada, South Africa!!!! Plus we don't have a constitution, so how can it be a constitutional matter??? sorry to be picky
Just a small constitutional matter ....our Royal Family is also theirs you know. Australia is still a Commonwealth country which means one queen for all ! ..so no 'adopting '(literal or otherwise) about it !
doesn't seem to work well with some Commonwealth countries i.e. Canada, South Africa!!!!
If you are implying that Canada does not have Elizabeth as their Head of State, then you are wrong. However, you are right that Commonwealth members do not have to have the Queen as their Head of State.
amosc100 posted:
Plus we don't have a constitution, so how can it be a constitutional matter??? sorry to be picky
That's a common misconception: we
do
have a constitution. We may not have a single document (with amendments) like most countries, but we do have a combination of "constitutional law" and uncodified conventions that serves the same purpose.
It would like in Ireland having a state funeral for Bob Geldof, it just doesn't seem right somehow.
...or George Best?
Even pickier... George Best had his funeral service in
Northern
Ireland, not Ireland 'proper' as some might say (ie the Republic). Again, he didn't warrant a 'state' funeral.
Bob Geldof is from Dublin I believe (and still alive AFAIK!)
Let the family decide what Steve want and don't let the Australian gvt interfere with it. I agree with what his dad says - It's up to his wife to decide!
Just a small constitutional matter ....our Royal Family is also theirs you know. Australia is still a Commonwealth country which means one queen for all ! ..so no 'adopting '(literal or otherwise) about it !
doesn't seem to work well with some Commonwealth countries i.e. Canada, South Africa!!!!
If you are implying that Canada does not have Elizabeth as their Head of State, then you are wrong. However, you are right that Commonwealth members do not have to have the Queen as their Head of State.
amosc100 posted:
Plus we don't have a constitution, so how can it be a constitutional matter??? sorry to be picky
That's a common misconception: we
do
have a constitution. We may not have a single document (with amendments) like most countries, but we do have a combination of "constitutional law" and uncodified conventions that serves the same purpose.
We have laws and powers that equate to a constitution but we do NOT have a constution - one has never been formalised, therefore one cannot talk about having a Constiution in the UK as it formally doesn't exist. We have a Commonwealth constituion as that was formalised and we have an EU constitution but no UK constiution!
a quick query though..... If the Queen is the head of state for both Canada and Australia, and a few other Commonwealth countries, then why do we need visa's to visit the countries and vice versa?????
a quick query though..... If the Queen is the head of state for both Canada and Australia, and a few other Commonwealth countries, then why do we need visa's to visit the countries and vice versa?????
Just a small constitutional matter ....our Royal Family is also theirs you know. Australia is still a Commonwealth country which means one queen for all ! ..so no 'adopting '(literal or otherwise) about it !
doesn't seem to work well with some Commonwealth countries i.e. Canada, South Africa!!!!
If you are implying that Canada does not have Elizabeth as their Head of State, then you are wrong. However, you are right that Commonwealth members do not have to have the Queen as their Head of State.
amosc100 posted:
Plus we don't have a constitution, so how can it be a constitutional matter??? sorry to be picky
That's a common misconception: we
do
have a constitution. We may not have a single document (with amendments) like most countries, but we do have a combination of "constitutional law" and uncodified conventions that serves the same purpose.
We have laws and powers that equate to a constitution but we do NOT have a constution - one has never been formalised, therefore one cannot talk about having a Constiution in the UK as it formally doesn't exist. We have a Commonwealth constituion as that was formalised and we have an EU constitution but no UK constiution!
a quick query though..... If the Queen is the head of state for both Canada and Australia, and a few other Commonwealth countries, then why do we need visa's to visit the countries and vice versa?????
We do have constitution, I'm a student of Government and Politics and we are not allowed to say that "the UK does not have a constitution" as it's not technically correct. We have an uncodified constitution.
We do have constitution, I'm a student of Government and Politics and we are not allowed to say that "the UK does not have a constitution" as it's not technically correct. We have an uncodified constitution.
ah but you see Brett, amosc100 is always correct and can never be argued with.
We do have constitution, I'm a student of Government and Politics and we are not allowed to say that "the UK does not have a constitution" as it's not technically correct. We have an uncodified constitution.
ah but you see Brett, amosc100 is always correct and can never be argued with.
ahem!!!! I always try to put valid reasonings across for any of my points of view - I am not always correct and where on earth did you get that impression that I was??? If I am wrong, and proved so, I admit to my failings but if there is deadlock (i.e. above) then I will just let it die quietly because of many different teachings by many different methods equals different, but strong beliefs, and there is no point in continuing on with it!
Yes Queenie is our head of state, represented by the Governor-General (chosen by the Prime Minster), but Australia is a "independent" country. The GG has few powers, but sometimes they've been rather contraversially used: i.e the dismissal of the Whitlam Government in 1975.
In 1999 we would have become a republic, but it was rejected, mostly not due to patriotism, but mostly due to most pro-republicans voting against the proposal due to the over how the President was to be elected (people wanted a directly elected President, not a parliamentary elected president)
