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Nothing has been on 4oD since 2015. Perhaps you should be looking on All4.
Sorry forgot how vexed people on here get over literally nothing.
I wasn't 'vexed', I simply pointed out that you were looking in the wrong place.
Interestingly it isn’t on
4od
yet. Just went to watch the first segment but can’t!
Nothing has been on 4oD since 2015. Perhaps you should be looking on All4.
Sorry forgot how vexed people on here get over literally nothing.
I wasn't 'vexed', I simply pointed out that you were looking in the wrong place.
90k for this yesterday. Same as the Kitchen Nightmares repeat before it. Somehow even less than the dreadful home-based version.
Just the show C4 needs in its current precarious position.
Just the show C4 needs in its current precarious position.
I daresay Peter Simon gets more viewers on an Ideal World overnight on ITV.
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C4's remit is to cater for minorities, but you have to wonder just how small a slice of the audience they are prepared to accept for "Steph's Buttybox" before replacing it with yet more CDWM repeats.
90k for this yesterday. Same as the Kitchen Nightmares repeat before it. Somehow even less than the dreadful home-based version.
Just the show C4 needs in its current precarious position.
Just the show C4 needs in its current precarious position.
C4's remit is to cater for minorities, but you have to wonder just how small a slice of the audience they are prepared to accept for "Steph's Buttybox" before replacing it with yet more CDWM repeats.
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The daytime 'lifestyle' market is already well served by ITV and it's so typically mainstream. C4's remit is to tell untold stories, take creative risks, drive innovation and to take more risks than other channels, not just to replicate them. Having a chat about the new series of Bake Off doesn't exactly fit with this remit.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
The daytime 'lifestyle' market is already well served by ITV and it's so typically mainstream. C4's remit is to tell untold stories, take creative risks, drive innovation and to take more risks than other channels, not just to replicate them. Having a chat about the new series of Bake Off doesn't exactly fit with this remit.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
She's the absolute perfect fit to front a Working Lunch revival, as I believe has already been mentioned in this thread.
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She's the absolute perfect fit to front a Working Lunch revival, as I believe has already been mentioned in this thread.
Why do I feel Channel 4 have signed Steph up without thinking what format would suit her best. Surely they would know Loose Women's audience were unlikely to switch. If they wanted a show like this, surely 3 or 4 o'clock would have been a better slot? Steph's Afternoon Tea or whatever?
The daytime 'lifestyle' market is already well served by ITV and it's so typically mainstream. C4's remit is to tell untold stories, take creative risks, drive innovation and to take more risks than other channels, not just to replicate them. Having a chat about the new series of Bake Off doesn't exactly fit with this remit.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
She's the absolute perfect fit to front a Working Lunch revival, as I believe has already been mentioned in this thread.
Why do I feel Channel 4 have signed Steph up without thinking what format would suit her best. Surely they would know Loose Women's audience were unlikely to switch. If they wanted a show like this, surely 3 or 4 o'clock would have been a better slot? Steph's Afternoon Tea or whatever?
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She's the absolute perfect fit to front a Working Lunch revival, as I believe has already been mentioned in this thread.
Why do I feel Channel 4 have signed Steph up without thinking what format would suit her best. Surely they would know Loose Women's audience were unlikely to switch. If they wanted a show like this, surely 3 or 4 o'clock would have been a better slot? Steph's Afternoon Tea or whatever?
I think someone along the way has over estimated how popular Steph on her own actually is
Yes she was popular on Breakfast and became the go-to face for any light factual on BBC One at one point, but most people are popular within those formats, it's pretty hard not to be, so it doesn't always translate to elsewhere
The daytime 'lifestyle' market is already well served by ITV and it's so typically mainstream. C4's remit is to tell untold stories, take creative risks, drive innovation and to take more risks than other channels, not just to replicate them. Having a chat about the new series of Bake Off doesn't exactly fit with this remit.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
A business / consumer, economy focused programme especially during this pandemic however would definitely be of value at that time and provide something different. i think Steph's Business Lunch would have been better and still be from the 'northern powerhouse', Leeds.
She's the absolute perfect fit to front a Working Lunch revival, as I believe has already been mentioned in this thread.
Why do I feel Channel 4 have signed Steph up without thinking what format would suit her best. Surely they would know Loose Women's audience were unlikely to switch. If they wanted a show like this, surely 3 or 4 o'clock would have been a better slot? Steph's Afternoon Tea or whatever?
I think someone along the way has over estimated how popular Steph on her own actually is
Yes she was popular on Breakfast and became the go-to face for any light factual on BBC One at one point, but most people are popular within those formats, it's pretty hard not to be, so it doesn't always translate to elsewhere
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Not sure what sort of audience Countdown gets these days but suspect her appearance there from tomorrow is no coincidence, although I doubt it would add more than 10-20k to the figure. Agree Afternoon Tea would be better - frankly if they're going after the This Morning audience I think the last thing most This Morning viewers want after two and a half hours of This Morning is more This Morning.
To be honest though there should be room for more than one daytime magazine show on British TV - and from what I saw yesterday this isn't a bad effort at all so it deserves a chance.
To be honest though there should be room for more than one daytime magazine show on British TV - and from what I saw yesterday this isn't a bad effort at all so it deserves a chance.
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Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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Well, C4 did do this in the nineties with Light Lunch, in the same slot too, which felt like a proper alternative to the other channels and enjoyed a real cult following (though it was never the same after it moved to teatime). You could argue that the challenge for C4 is that what used to be alternative has now become very mainstream, and the other channels have been influenced by them, so it no longer feels particularly different.
It's like The Big Breakfast, when that started it was absolutely light years ahead of the alternative, but it was so influential that you could see its impact on other shows. Don't Forget Your Toothbrush is another example, when that began it was a big show and seemed much fresher than the tired old Saturday night output on BBC1 and ITV. But now people like Keith Lemon and Alan Carr are on primetime ITV.
I like Steph a lot, and I think it's underselling her to say anyone could be a success on Breakfast, she had a really likeable and distinctive personality. But she does need a format that's more than just Steph doing stuff, in the same way Slap Bang was a flop because it was just Ant and Dec doing stuff.
The daytime 'lifestyle' market is already well served by ITV and it's so typically mainstream. C4's remit is to tell untold stories, take creative risks, drive innovation and to take more risks than other channels, not just to replicate them. Having a chat about the new series of Bake Off doesn't exactly fit with this remit.
Well, C4 did do this in the nineties with Light Lunch, in the same slot too, which felt like a proper alternative to the other channels and enjoyed a real cult following (though it was never the same after it moved to teatime). You could argue that the challenge for C4 is that what used to be alternative has now become very mainstream, and the other channels have been influenced by them, so it no longer feels particularly different.
It's like The Big Breakfast, when that started it was absolutely light years ahead of the alternative, but it was so influential that you could see its impact on other shows. Don't Forget Your Toothbrush is another example, when that began it was a big show and seemed much fresher than the tired old Saturday night output on BBC1 and ITV. But now people like Keith Lemon and Alan Carr are on primetime ITV.
I like Steph a lot, and I think it's underselling her to say anyone could be a success on Breakfast, she had a really likeable and distinctive personality. But she does need a format that's more than just Steph doing stuff, in the same way Slap Bang was a flop because it was just Ant and Dec doing stuff.