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Inspector Sands
Packed Lunch copies another TM feature shocker!

TV programmes copy something going viral on the internet shocker....
DW
DavidWhitfield Tyne Tees Look North (North East)
Packed Lunch copies another TM feature shocker!

TV programmes copy something going viral on the internet shocker....

The problem is - it 'went viral' ages ago.
The This Morning video posted by Whataday is seven years old, so that gives you an indication of how long it's been doing the rounds.
This feature is pretty illustrative of the show as a whole - it's preditable, it's nothing new, and therefore gives no incentive to viewers to want to tune in.
Last edited by DavidWhitfield on 13 October 2020 12:47pm
Guess who's big in the back time!
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Inspector Sands

The problem is - it 'went viral' with After Eights ages ago. We've seen it now. This feature, like the rest of the programme, is nothing new, and therefore gives no incentive to viewers to want to tune in.

Stuff goes viral in cycles, stuff reappears on timelines again and again, I always see things from ages ago pop up as if it's something new. If TV programmes were only allowed to do new content from the internet they wouldn't do any at all (which might be a good thing). It was probably old when This Morning did it.

One two minute item isn't going to be an incentive to tune in anyway. There's very little new in TV anyway, let alone daytime TV. In a lot of respects there's a lot of re-trodden ground in the show but that's not to say there's 'nothing new', it does have some original ideas and it's very different in style to other daytime shows. It's not against anything similar so that's a reason in itself. That's the main reason I put it on - something to watch while we're having lunch
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gottago London London
Giving it my first proper watch in a while today. It is so boring. It's strange how similar it feels to This Morning and yet how utterly unengaging it is compared to TM which I guess shows how well produced that is in comparison to this. The link scripts for example feel like they've been written by someone with no experience of writing lines.

I can't believe One O'Clock Views has survived this long, surely no one enjoys listening to bad jokes told badly with a studio full of people forcing themselves to laugh at them? After that everything the audience has to say is exceptionally uninteresting, I'd rather have watch another dull item that have to sit through this section.

One thing that could help the show a bit is to stop forcing the crew and audience from laughing at everything One Show style. It becomes distracting given that nothing Steph or any of the guests are saying is funny.

They were talking about chocolate in the fridge again before which I'm sure they talked about the last time I watched.
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Inspector Sands
I'm not sure it feels anything like This Morning, especially not with the audience and co-presenters. At the moment This Morning is all virtual except the two presenters and a chef and sometimes a Trinny.

Thinking about it it's one of the few programmes that have actual guests these days. I suspect that they have the advantage of having set up the studio and facilities to be covid friendly rather than having to adapt


I think it's big issue is the pace and the space. It's not quite as slick and quick as it could be.

Also it feels too big a space and doesn't feel as cosy as other shows (which is odd as This Morning probably is a higher and wider studio). That's partly because they have a lot more people on set than This Morning and currently they need spacing out. The layout of the contibutors when they're in the kitchen area feels a little odd. But that's the current way it has to be done

But they are things that come good and improve in time as the show evolves and develops. This Morning 1988 is not This Morning 2020, it takes time to develop a format
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 13 October 2020 3:29pm - 2 times in total
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Jon Central (West) Midlands Today
I think the comparisons to the This Morning set are down to the fact the current TM set is still very much a evolution of what they had in the beginning. Although Steph’s set is quite different to what This Morning has now, it’s still quite similar to what the current set evolved from. To use a clumsy phrase ‘segment headline’ graphics are almost
identical to This Mornings. So at first glance you’d think you were still watching This Morning.

Most of the content could fit quite happily on This Morning and the bits which aren’t similar are the ones people seem to be complaining about.

Also why is there no YouTube channel? Surely if Channel 4 were serious about this project they’d be uploading daily videos at least as a way of promotion.
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gottago London London
I'm not sure it feels anything like This Morning, especially not with the audience and co-presenters. At the moment This Morning is all virtual except the two presenters and a chef and sometimes a Trinny.

Not sure what you mean by this as all of the key 'sit down' items were typical This Morning fare - pet first aid, weddings during Corona, Black History Month VT and interview (and all accompanied with a strap at the bottom that's virtually identical to the TM one), a cooking segment and a basic viewer phone in game. But there was just nothing about them that engages you in the way This Morning normally can. I think Steph's ad libbed questioning and chat is part of the problem, she doesn't really know how to fill dead air very well, that dull exchange about the weather with the caller on the phone-in game being a good example and her endless use of the words 'fantastic' and 'amazing' in reaction to things that are anything but.

If I were them I'd board up the studio window asap. Even on a sunny day you can barely see the docks they're so desperate to show off and the only time I notice it's a window is when a security guard in high vis walks past. Looked especially dull today with rain all over the windows.
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
But they are things that come good and improve in time as the show evolves and develops. This Morning 1988 is not This Morning 2020, it takes time to develop a format

This will be lucky to be around in 32 weeks, never mind 32 years.

On paper there is nothing wrong with another daytime magazine show doing what This Morning does in the mornings in the afternoon, but it's clearly just finding an audience. I do think the segment straps are a huge mistake - they're not necessary on This Morning anyhow but using them here just screamed copy cat and it's just not helped it.

I don't think the studio is the issue or particularly Steph - and indeed I think the rotating guest hosts is probably beginning to work a bit as it should now after a few weeks now there is a bit of rapport between them. The trouble is it's just not cutting through in the way it needs too and has almost had a start it can never really recover from.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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Inspector Sands

Not sure what you mean by this as all of the key 'sit down' items were typical This Morning fare - pet first aid, weddings during Corona, Black History Month VT and interview (and all accompanied with a strap at the bottom that's virtually identical to the TM one), a cooking segment and a basic viewer phone in game. But there was just nothing about them that engages you in the way This Morning normally can. I think Steph's ad libbed questioning and chat is part of the problem

The subject matter and items might be similar (and as they're topical programmes they will be), but that's not necessarily to do with the 'feel' of the programme.

The presenter dynamic is different (as you say above), the audience present, the fact that the the guests are almost always physically in the studio, the acoustic and spacial qualities of the space (for better or worse, see my comments above), the inclusion of comedy is another differentiator.

Thing is even if they were identical it doesn't really matter as they're not in direct competition.



Incidently I'm not sure even This Morning feels much like This Morning any more, although I'll still put it on and see what they're doing it's not what it was. I don't know if it's just covid or other factors too(change of studio, recent events involving Phil's personal life etc) but it seems a bit flatter.

The atmosphere has definately lost something with everyone on video links rather than in the studio. But they've done a lot better at it than The One Show, which lost studio guests and audience and is just awful now



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If I were them I'd board up the studio window asap. Even on a sunny day you can barely see the docks they're so desperate to show off and the only time I notice it's a window is when a security guard in high vis walks past. Looked especially dull today with rain all over the windows.

I don't think there's a lot to see outside anyway, certainly when they've been out presenting from outside its just bland office development. I don't know the area though. I have seen people walk past, but not many.

For someone who's saying it's too much like This Morning, getting rid of the window surely makes it more like This Morning?
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Brekkie Wales Wales Today
I think This Morning has about the right balance of in studio and virtual guests. I caught the last hour or so today and they had three back to back items done with their experts in the studio. I think we've just got to accept on the whole guests won't be in the studio but as you say they've handled it much better than The One Show.


Back to this and is it just three areas they have in the studio - the kitchen, the sofas and the lunchmates area? Also have they managed to do anything outside the studio yet?
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
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gottago London London

For someone who's saying it's too much like This Morning, getting rid of the window surely makes it more like This Morning?

Well I'm certainly not advocating they replace it with a video wall with a view of Leeds Dock! My point is the view is barely noticeable or impressive, and when it is noticeable it ends up somewhat distracting.
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Inspector Sands

For someone who's saying it's too much like This Morning, getting rid of the window surely makes it more like This Morning?

Well I'm certainly not advocating they replace it with a video wall with a view of Leeds Dock! My point is the view is barely noticeable or impressive, and when it is noticeable it ends up somewhat distracting.

To be honest I've been watching it for a few weeks and I've no idea where they are or what's outside the window, except it's somewhere in Leeds!

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