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BF
BFGArmy Channel Channel Islands
This whole situation does strike me as another example of a broadcaster 'buying the hype' about a presenter again and it won't be the first or the last time.
Steph seemed to be fairly popular on Breakfast (though also to have her fair share of critics who could find her segments a bit 'dumbed down') and by all accounts seems a fine presenter but it was the format that was the star. The people watching the show purely for Steph would have been a tiny minority.

It seems that Channel 4 swallowed the hype whole and thought they could put her on any format and it would be at least a moderate success. And by all accounts this programme sounds like complete and utter blandness that Steph never really stood much of a chance hosting and is far too long for such a new show finding its feet.
FL
Flux London London
It is so competitive out there, and she needs to make some headlines. Look how much publicity GMB, This Morning, Loose Women, etc, get online.

Nothing sums up a flop like the press not even caring that your show is a flop. Usually media reporters love being able to write about shows and channels with zero viewers but I'm finding literally nothing on this.

Flux posted:
I just don't see why Steph should suddenly be discussing recipes with chefs or fronting live competitions from a shopping centre. Her main "brand" if you like was as a business presenter on BBC Breakfast. There and in radio shows like "Wake up to Money" she took what could be quite dull subjects to a majority of the public and made them more accessible and easier to understand. She injected personality where there hadn't really been much before. That's why she broke through.

Perhaps though she wants to move on from just being a "business presenter" and break through into the mainstream, hence why she took this opportunity at C4. Yes, it's not working out with this show, but long term will probably serve her better than another year on the Breakfast sofa.

There are also the real world considerations of her now having a baby and how compatible that might be for her with a breakfast TV role, plus of course with all the cuts at the BBC there is no guarantee how long the business presenter role will last on Breakfast - if they had to cut one presenting role from the show you'd imagine that might be the first to go.


I wasn’t arguing that she should have stayed at Breakfast though. I agree with all your points, and I also think it was the right thing for Steph to move on when she did - she had outgrown being the business presenter on Breakfast. The shame is that what she moved into isn’t right, and I think that’s a misstep on the part of the Channel and/or the producers rather than Steph herself.

I hope they find a format that works for her because as LondonViewer pointed out she’s extremely likeable and talented. But my initial point was that her main talent and ability is completely lost in this (lack of) format.
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AN
Andrew Founding member Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
She’d already moved onto Watchdog and the various Eat Well for less type shows

There is no end of that sort of thing she could have done if she’d stayed at the BBC, as well as filling in on Breakfast, she’d end up covering The One Show, and could be in line to front this new morning show that they are apparently planning.

The lack of coverage in the tabloids shows how it’s all pretty much off the radar, normally someone who ‘sensationally quits the beeb’ and moves to a rival, would be watched very closely. I bet Adrian and Christine wish they’d had so little focus on them
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NG
noggin Founding member
She’d already moved onto Watchdog and the various Eat Well for less type shows


Steph did "Shop Well For Less" with Alex Jones (Steph handled the finance bits), but not Eat Well. "Eat Well For Less" is presented by Chris Bavin and Gregg Wallace.
NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
It is so competitive out there, and she needs to make some headlines. Look how much publicity GMB, This Morning, Loose Women, etc, get online.

Nothing sums up a flop like the press not even caring that your show is a flop. Usually media reporters love being able to write about shows and channels with zero viewers but I'm finding literally nothing on this.

Flux posted:
I just don't see why Steph should suddenly be discussing recipes with chefs or fronting live competitions from a shopping centre. Her main "brand" if you like was as a business presenter on BBC Breakfast. There and in radio shows like "Wake up to Money" she took what could be quite dull subjects to a majority of the public and made them more accessible and easier to understand. She injected personality where there hadn't really been much before. That's why she broke through.

Perhaps though she wants to move on from just being a "business presenter" and break through into the mainstream, hence why she took this opportunity at C4. Yes, it's not working out with this show, but long term will probably serve her better than another year on the Breakfast sofa.

There are also the real world considerations of her now having a baby and how compatible that might be for her with a breakfast TV role, plus of course with all the cuts at the BBC there is no guarantee how long the business presenter role will last on Breakfast - if they had to cut one presenting role from the show you'd imagine that might be the first to go.


I can't see Breakfast stopping the business slot. As regards Stephanie she may very well want to broaden her experience. Ok this current show may not work out but that doesn't mean she should retreat to business programmes. She may want to follow the path taken by Schofield in terms of starting in one area (in Schofield's case kids programming) to quizzes etc.
JL
JamesLaverty1925 Central (East) East Midlands Today
It is so competitive out there, and she needs to make some headlines. Look how much publicity GMB, This Morning, Loose Women, etc, get online.

Nothing sums up a flop like the press not even caring that your show is a flop. Usually media reporters love being able to write about shows and channels with zero viewers but I'm finding literally nothing on this.

Flux posted:
I just don't see why Steph should suddenly be discussing recipes with chefs or fronting live competitions from a shopping centre. Her main "brand" if you like was as a business presenter on BBC Breakfast. There and in radio shows like "Wake up to Money" she took what could be quite dull subjects to a majority of the public and made them more accessible and easier to understand. She injected personality where there hadn't really been much before. That's why she broke through.

Perhaps though she wants to move on from just being a "business presenter" and break through into the mainstream, hence why she took this opportunity at C4. Yes, it's not working out with this show, but long term will probably serve her better than another year on the Breakfast sofa.

There are also the real world considerations of her now having a baby and how compatible that might be for her with a breakfast TV role, plus of course with all the cuts at the BBC there is no guarantee how long the business presenter role will last on Breakfast - if they had to cut one presenting role from the show you'd imagine that might be the first to go.


I can't see Breakfast stopping the business slot. As regards Stephanie she may very well want to broaden her experience. Ok this current show may not work out but that doesn't mean she should retreat to business programmes. She may want to follow the path taken by Schofield in terms of starting in one area (in Schofield's case kids programming) to quizzes etc.


If Packed Lunch doesn't work out, they'll find another format for her pretty quickly. As I've said earlier in the thread, they've signed her as a personality, and formats seem to have been an afterthought.
ST
Stuart Recently warned West Country (West) Spotlight
If Packed Lunch doesn't work out, they'll find another format for her pretty quickly. As I've said earlier in the thread, they've signed her as a personality, and formats seem to have been an afterthought.

Yet the problem remaining for broadcasters is that the "hire talent first, think of a format to wrap around them later" has often failed.
SO
Soupnzi Recently warned London London
I’ve just watched 5 mins of this show for be first time. Obvs Steph was in her element talking about the economy, and the show overall does have a relaxed vibe...and the set looks good. The onscreen supers though look so much like This Morning- it may even be the same font!

But I can’t see how it will ever take viewers from Loose Women. The team behind it perhaps see it a UK version of Oprah or Ellen....but overall it really reminds me of forgotten Sky daytime format Angela & Friends.
DM
DeMarkay London London
The onscreen supers


The what? Not familiar with much TV jargon
WH
what West Country (East) Points West
The onscreen supers


The what? Not familiar with much TV jargon

The onscreen graphics. Also known as “lower thirds” or Astons.
DM
DeMarkay London London
what posted:
The onscreen supers


The what? Not familiar with much TV jargon

The onscreen graphics. Also known as “lower thirds” or Astons.


Ah, it's just another term for Lower Thirds, etc. Gotcha
IS
Inspector Sands
I’ve just watched 5 mins of this show for be first time. Obvs Steph was in her element talking about the economy, and the show overall does have a relaxed vibe...and the set looks good. The onscreen supers though look so much like This Morning- it may even be the same font!

But I can’t see how it will ever take viewers from Loose Women. The team behind it perhaps see it a UK version of Oprah or Ellen....but overall it really reminds me of forgotten Sky daytime format Angela & Friends.

I've only managed to watch it the last few days and am quite enjoying it. I particularly enjoy the daily comedic guest, Russel Kane yesterday was great I thought, the same today with Jan Ravens

It does have an atmosphere problem - it's a large studio space but not enough people to fill it, and those who are there are having to be distant. It would feel a lot more cosier in 'normal' times.

It's not taken me away from Loose Women as I can't stand Loose Women! It's nice to have something live and topical and magaziney at this time of day that's not bloody Loose Women. It's relaxed and not shouty or reactionary
Last edited by Inspector Sands on 24 September 2020 1:31pm - 2 times in total

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