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AlexS posted:
It also makes no sense to think Steph would be willing to present such a show considering the efforts she makes to keep her personal life away from the public eye and the inevitable headlines it would create.


If that's the case I'd say there's a good argument for Steph being an ill fit for a live daily lifestyle show full stop.


Yes, on these shows, you have to make viewers relate to you.

It isn't like reading the news.

Think of the tidbits of personal information that the This Morning presenters share, for viewers to identify with.
For example, today, Phillip showed a photo on his phone of his weekend bike ride. Eamonn and Ruth share things, as did Fern, Richard and Judy. If people think they 'know you', they are more likely to tune in and listen to you.
In this type of entertainment, the less that people know about you, the harder it is for you to be remembered.

I know nothing about Steph; I hadn't heard of her before, I don't watch BBC Breakfast. I suspect a lot of other people wouldn't have heard of her, either. She should be getting her personality out there and letting everyone know who she is and what her show is there to do. It is so competitive out there, and she needs to make some headlines. Look how much publicity GMB, This Morning, Loose Women, etc, get online.
JO
Johnr
I think she’s mentioned she’s from Middlesbrough a couple of times...
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NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
AlexS posted:
It also makes no sense to think Steph would be willing to present such a show considering the efforts she makes to keep her personal life away from the public eye and the inevitable headlines it would create.


If that's the case I'd say there's a good argument for Steph being an ill fit for a live daily lifestyle show full stop.


Does her private life matter? Personally I don't think so. In this age of social media and wall to wall celebrity websites and magazines it has become all to easy for us to feel that we know the presenters. We tune into the likes of This Morning and Lorraine not just to keep up to date with the latest news but also to see what Philip and Holly have been up to in the last 24 hours. We are given access to their moods, their activities and their emotions.

We feel for them (*) we cheer for them, we weep for them to such a point that we feel we are them and that our lives, our existences are subsumed. There is a theory that many people live their lives through social media. I'll add to that and say many live their lives through TV.

I would say Stephanie is a refreshing buck to this trend. She wants to be seen as a professional and capable presenter which she is and keep her private life out of the public view.

I posted above what little I knew about her (**). We don't know the name of her child or the name of her partner. That I feel is correct. They are private citizens and in respect to her partner don't wish to be known by all and sundry.

To my mind a presenter doesn't have to reveal every aspect of their lives to be a popular and successful one and personally If she had either a live or pre-recorded show then she wouldn't change her on-screen persona.

*-In respect to Philip's revelation at the start of this year the outpouring of shock and support was palpable. Irrespective of the circumstances surrounding his coming out I still believe he was incredibly brave.

**-Stephanie is also a former Irish dancing champion
SO
Soupnzi Recently warned London London
I think daytime presenters partly end up excavating so much of their personalities because there’s so much airtime to fill. The golden rule is that big experiences in one’s life have to be shared with the viewers.

Fern Briton fell foul of that really when she didn’t tell viewers about her gastric band, especially as she’d always been so open about her attempts to shed weight. And she made it worse by suggesting her drastic weight loss was solely down to cycling. Then when she finally spoke about it the day following the Sunday tabloid ‘exposé’, she was sort of flippant about it not being a big deal to the viewers.
LL
London Lite Founding member London London
We tune into the likes of This Morning and Lorraine not just to keep up to date with the latest news but also to see what Philip and Holly have been up to in the last 24 hours. We are given access to their moods, their activities and their emotions.

We feel for them (*) we cheer for them, we weep for them to such a point that we feel we are them and that our lives, our existences are subsumed.


I couldn't care less about the antics of messers Schofield and Willoughby, while I respect some people find this interesting, this is why I'm not the target audience for that show.
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Whataday Founding member Wales Wales Today
To my mind a presenter doesn't have to reveal every aspect of their lives to be a popular and successful one and personally If she had either a live or pre-recorded show then she wouldn't change her on-screen persona.


Keeping your private life private is something to be admired, but it does shut off a certain degree of accessibility common with most daytime presenters. If the audience cannot relate to her, that could be a problem.
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NL
Ne1L C Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I think the core of the issue lies in Stephanie's position. As a member of the Breakfast team she played a secondary role to Bill and Susanna etc so the focus was on them and not her. Once you bring her out onto her own show she has to bear the brunt.
LV
LondonViewer London London
I’ve sampled it now. Never really seen her on TV before as I don’t watch Breakfast. Thought she comes across really well & she’s very likeable.
The problem is the show & the slot/channel IMO. I wouldn’t go to C4 during DT for that type of show, it would probably be rating higher on C5. The format is too pedestrian. Doesn’t stand out.
Studio/set; nice but too cavernous for daytime.
Even if the show was superb, still a tough slot on C4 for this type of programme. Nice to have a programme like this coming from somewhere other than London though.
BR
Brekkie Recently warned Wales Wales Today
It is so competitive out there, and she needs to make some headlines. Look how much publicity GMB, This Morning, Loose Women, etc, get online.

Nothing sums up a flop like the press not even caring that your show is a flop. Usually media reporters love being able to write about shows and channels with zero viewers but I'm finding literally nothing on this.

Flux posted:
I just don't see why Steph should suddenly be discussing recipes with chefs or fronting live competitions from a shopping centre. Her main "brand" if you like was as a business presenter on BBC Breakfast. There and in radio shows like "Wake up to Money" she took what could be quite dull subjects to a majority of the public and made them more accessible and easier to understand. She injected personality where there hadn't really been much before. That's why she broke through.

Perhaps though she wants to move on from just being a "business presenter" and break through into the mainstream, hence why she took this opportunity at C4. Yes, it's not working out with this show, but long term will probably serve her better than another year on the Breakfast sofa.

There are also the real world considerations of her now having a baby and how compatible that might be for her with a breakfast TV role, plus of course with all the cuts at the BBC there is no guarantee how long the business presenter role will last on Breakfast - if they had to cut one presenting role from the show you'd imagine that might be the first to go.
Turns out nobody had 2020 vision.
BF
BFGArmy Channel Channel Islands
JCB posted:
Wouldn't "the channel 4 spin" on daytime be to just nick 'This Morning' lock, stock and barrel from ITV?

This Morning seems to be increasingly tailoring itself to every "Karen" on facebook. Their gas lighting topical debates are starting to feel like TalkRadio on TV and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Alex youknowwho started popping up on there before too long. The most obvious route for Channel 4 to have gone down would have been a 'Black This Morning'. There must be a sizable black daytime audience who are looking for an alternative This Mornings white nonsense.


Am I just being slightly dim or out-of-touch not knowing who 'Alex youknowwho' is supposed to be refering to?
MF
Matthew_Fieldhouse Central (West) Midlands Today
JCB posted:
Wouldn't "the channel 4 spin" on daytime be to just nick 'This Morning' lock, stock and barrel from ITV?

This Morning seems to be increasingly tailoring itself to every "Karen" on facebook. Their gas lighting topical debates are starting to feel like TalkRadio on TV and I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if Alex youknowwho started popping up on there before too long. The most obvious route for Channel 4 to have gone down would have been a 'Black This Morning'. There must be a sizable black daytime audience who are looking for an alternative This Mornings white nonsense.


Am I just being slightly dim or out-of-touch not knowing who 'Alex youknowwho' is supposed to be refering to?

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