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Star Trek The Original Series Returns to BBC Two

(January 2005)

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MS
Mr-Stabby
1:30 starting 15th January, they are returning TOS to BBC Two.

Who wants to bet how long it is before it's moved around the schedule and then cancelled? The BBC don't seem to like Cult, yet they constantly return these shows. The same thing always happens. On for a while, episodes moved, then missed, then eventually cancelled before one series is over.

I do hope they get a good audience with these then they might eventually repeat Blake's 7 for once!
ME
me
Where did repeats of TNG go? Do the BBC still own repeat rights to the other series?
CT
Chris Turnbull
Any idea if they plan to re-air "the Cage"? probably one of my favourite episodes of Star Trek.
MS
Mr-Stabby
Chris Turnbull posted:
Any idea if they plan to re-air "the Cage"? probably one of my favourite episodes of Star Trek.


As it's officially a pilot, i'm not sure they're allowed to. Although Sky One have played the first Kirk pilot before.
CT
Chris Turnbull
Mr-Stabby posted:
Chris Turnbull posted:
Any idea if they plan to re-air "the Cage"? probably one of my favourite episodes of Star Trek.


As it's officially a pilot, i'm not sure they're allowed to. Although Sky One have played the first Kirk pilot before.
I remember a few years ago that The cage was on BBC TWO. i hope to high heavens that they do re-air it. I love the look of the show in this episode.

Oh well, guess i'll have to look forword to Mirror, Mirror then.
MS
Mr-Stabby
When the beeb showed it, which version did they show? Because apparently there are 2 versions of the pilot
MR
mromega
There are officially two pilot versions of Star Trek: TOS.

One features William Shatner playing James T Kirk and is called "Where No Man has Gone Before"

The other, made earlier, and which is also featured in a later episode, was "The Cage" and featured Jeffrey Hunter playing Captain Pike. "The Cage" normally doesn't form part of any screening of the show, especially if shown in chronological order, it also doesn't feature on the Season 1 DVD box set of ST:TOS.
MS
Mr-Stabby
No I meant there are 2 versions of the Pike pilot. One version is fully in colour but the other has black and white bits in it too.

As for THE CAGE, it's apparently on the Series 3 DVD, god knows why....
CT
Chris Turnbull
mromega posted:
There are officially two pilot versions of Star Trek: TOS.

One features William Shatner playing James T Kirk and is called "Where No Man has Gone Before"

The other, made earlier, and which is also featured in a later episode, was "The Cage" and featured Jeffrey Hunter playing Captain Pike. "The Cage" normally doesn't form part of any screening of the show, especially if shown in chronological order, it also doesn't feature on the Season 1 DVD box set of ST:TOS.
ah but it does feature on the Season 3 DVD box set of ST:TOS. Two versions of it (B/W & Color).
MS
Mr-Stabby
There must be something different other than the B&W scenes being colourised for both versions to be on there?
CT
Chris Turnbull
Mr-Stabby posted:
There must be something different other than the B&W scenes being colourised for both versions to be on there?
I think it's something to do with the editing and audio.
CW
cwathen Founding member
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As it's officially a pilot, i'm not sure they're allowed to. Although Sky One have played the first Kirk pilot before.

The pilot with William Shatner was aired as part of the series (despite many differences to the styling of the show in between the pilot and production) and so is always repeated.

As 'The Cage' stands by itself, it's often not repeated, but the BBC did back in 2000.

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When the beeb showed it, which version did they show? Because apparently there are 2 versions of the pilot

'The Cage' was originally made in full colour. Despite being rejected, it did cost over $600,000 (in 1964 money) to produce (almost double the second pilot) and so Paramount still wanted to get their money's worth from it. Thus they packaged it around a two-part TOS story called 'The Menagerie', using about 75-80% of the footage from 'The Cage'. Some time later in the 60's, the colour print was 'lost', with only a B/W copy thought to survive.

Fast forward 20 years, to 1986, and Paramount released 'The Cage' on video as part of Star Trek's 20th anniversary celebrations. Although at that time they only held a B/W copy, most of the footage did survive in colour as part of 'The Menagerie'. Thus Paramount released a strange hybrid version, using as much of the colour footage as possible, interspersed with B/W from the original programme. This version also contained a specially filmed introduction by Gene Roddenberry.

Not long after that, a surviving colour copy was 'found' and subsequently released, with the hybrid version being consigned to the dustbin (I've got a copy of it myself however).

Although there are obviously quality differences between the two, there is no differences at all in content between the B/W and colour versions, since one is merely a copy of the other.

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it also doesn't feature on the Season 1 DVD box set of ST:TOS.

It didn't form part of the original 80's video release of TOS, but as I said above it was released as a separate product. It was however included in the 90's video rerelease, so it's a bit odd for it to then be removed again in the present DVD release.

Incidentally, what order is the DVD release in? As you may or may not know, TOS has two running orders, the original airing order used by NBC in the 60's, and the wholey different production order. The production order makes more sense (the original running order puts 'Where No Man Has Gone Before' as the 3rd or 4th episode, even though it looks markedly different to every other episode). The original video released was in original airdate order, whilst the second one was in production order. BBC2 have showed TOS in both. How is the DVD set done?

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