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Ne1L C828 posts since 11 Sep 2011
I don't know if this has been answered before. Pre 1968 did any of the weekday contractors did on screen handovers to the weekend broadcasters or vice-versa?
Closedown97 posts since 23 Nov 2014
Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I don't know for sure, but I very much doubt it. The arrangements for Midlands, the North and London before the summer 68 changes were a full 5-day/2-day split, as opposed to the post-July 68 arrangement of 4 and a half/2 and a half, with the handover at 7pm (68-81) or 5.15 (82 onward)
Neil Jones5,205 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
I think prior to 1968 it would have been somebody closes at the end of the day Friday and somebody else comes on the air first thing Saturday morning for two days and then it changes back again behind the scenes.

Of course after July 1968 the issue solved itself outside of London, but presumably the powers that be didn't see any real benefit in keeping the Midlands a split franchise (the north of course was effectively permanently split anyway), but that being said I wouldn't be surprised that if it had lasted after 1968 it would have been gone by the time of the 1991 round.
Markymark6,628 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
I think I'm right in saying that in those days it was literally a Monday-Friday/Saturday-Sunday split. The Friday evening handover between Thames and LWT was a later change to even out the ad revenue between the two.


Pre July 68, there were no Friday night hand-overs, the weekday contractor closed down on Friday night (even if that was the small hours of Saturday morning) and the weekend one opened up on Saturday morning.

Thames/LWT from July 68 (or would it have actually been early August ?) were the first companies to perform an on air handover.

I've never been able to find out what happened on the night of the June 69 moon landing. The landing itself was around 4am on a Monday morning, and ITN's coverage continued deep into 'mid morning' I think, so when was the handover back to Thames ?
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Markymark6,628 posts since 13 Dec 2004
Meridian (North) South Today
I think I'm right in saying that in those days it was literally a Monday-Friday/Saturday-Sunday split. The Friday evening handover between Thames and LWT was a later change to even out the ad revenue between the two.


Was it? I thought it was 19:00hrs Friday 68 until Dec 81, then it was 17:15hrs from 82 ?

Edit: It must have been 19:00hrs Friday from the outset, because LWT flagship programme
Frost on Friday ran for two years (68-70) ?

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2626500/
Last edited by Markymark on 23 March 2019 5:31pm - 2 times in total
JKDerry1,513 posts since 15 Oct 2016
UTV Newsline
Pre-1968 the weekend contractors on ITV were ATV for London and ABC for the midlands and northern England. The two companies would start their contract day on Saturday at 00:00:00 am and ended at 23:59:59 on the Sunday.

In the 1968 franchise changes, the midlands and northern England weekend franchise was axed and converted into a seven day a week service, with Yorkshire Television created to try and ease the stronghold of Granada.

London was the only one kept with a split franchise deal. LWT argued that it needed a foothold on a Friday night to achieve stronger ratings and money, so the IBA allowed them to start their weekend contract at 19:00:00 on every Friday, with Thames Television officially ending at 18:59:59 every Friday.
Inspector Sands13,508 posts since 25 Aug 2004
Pre-1968 the weekend contractors on ITV were ATV for London and ABC for the midlands and northern England. The two companies would start their contract day on Saturday at 00:00:00 am and ended at 23:59:59 on the Sunday.

Are you sure about that? As mentioned earlier, if programmes went past midnight on a Friday or a Sunday then the company continued.

Unless that was the official timing but they just ignored it when it happened?