Special BBC ONE ident

Yeah, because if England (50 million people) beat any of the other nations (population below 5 million), then that's a great achievement, isn't it?

This is a special occasion for NI because it's the first time in 80 years that it has happened. No wonder they're a bit happy about it, and no wonder a special effort has been made. Of course, when England have achieved special results, like those against Germany, the whole match has been repeated across the whole network , whether the other nations like it or not. I don't remember seeing Northern Ireland's result against England being repeated in full on BBC Scotland, a result which is proportionally a more impressive one than those achieved by England which have achieved that status.

Also as England provides the network feed, presumably they couldn't. Of course, because they provide the network feed this means we get terribly biased English commentary and endless programmes which are of no relevance to us (England: A Celebration on Scottish TV anyone?) so it goes both ways. (and mainly towards England)

and thats the way it should be! i'd rather the english were gracious in victory and defeat.

it seems many (but not all) in the provinces concentrate on the fact england were defeated (in the loosest sense of the word, it was one game) rather than their own team's success.

don't think its worth debating though, wednesdays back pages are already being used to wrap up chips.

Good to know we won't see that kind of ident again for another 80 years then.

I can see why they made a special ident, and why it wouldn't work for the english if they tanked NI Wales or Scotland.

Its just a wee bit of cheeky fun, and if the English did it on network BBC One it would obviously be a bit cruel and cringeworthy given the vast difference in the calibre or the team. The fact the English lost is worth a wee bit of letting rip in a small region innit espesh when 'England Expects' and all that baws.

Anyhow you've got the cricket to enjoy and certainally in Scotland we don't envy you that because crickets not big here.

What tosh!

It's the English-centric media that has concentrated on England losing rather than Northern Ireland winning on Wednesday.

We have been celebrating our win.

I'm glad to say the England fans I came across in Belfast on Wednesday were magnanimous in defeat and a credit to their country.

More than can be said for internet spoil-sports!

Agreed Gav, I watched BBC THREE News on Thursday evening and if you didn't already know you'd have been hard pressed to discover exactly which team had beaten England. There was 10 minutes of discussion on how terrible things were and barely a mention of NI's achievement at all.

Similarly when England lost their friendly the other week, but Wales and Scotland drew theirs.

England are always positioned as the only home side when playing other UK nations. Even when Wales won the six nations, the sense was that it was abroad.

Welsh sportsmen are British when they're winning, but it's a poor night for the Welshman if he loses.

'So and so is speaking in Scotland', 'Jobs are moving to Wales' -- putting England here wouldn't make sense, so I really don't understand why they use these so often.

It's all very tedious and lazy.

I know what you mean - often you hear callers on a programme referred to as:

Stephen from Aylesbury
Peter from Hackney
Gavin from Maidstone
David from Scotland...

It is perfectly understandable that more emphasis is going to be put on England and English reaction, given that it has nearly 30 times the population of Northern Ireland and five times the population of the other home countries combined.

What is irritating and bordering on unacceptable is this attitude of Britain = England and that is definitely not the case.

Mind you, if the BBC, ITN, etc, have been bad, don't even start me about 'TalkSport'. No so much 'Radio Bloke', as boke.

Anyway, good to see the doctored logo again before 'Football Focus' (who had the bright idea and did it, Mark?) though, after today, maybe we should go easy on the poor wee souls!

There were a few people had the idea, but I have to say, as can be seen from the examples on The TV Room, we have to admit the original idea came from our colleagues in Cardiff.

I'm sure "Sven Speaks Out!" wasn't said before the ident into the 1200 News over at Broadcasting House as it was at TVC...

Oh, and did Jackie Fullerton do a "You guys took one hell of a beating"-style commentary on Wednesday night? A good job BBC NI provided their own coverage and spared the Province a moping Gary Lineker.

They've just shown the ident during Football Focus to Lawrie Sanchez!