RW
RW
I suppose the only way I'm going to see this trailer then is to tune into the lousy signal I can get from the Tunbridge Wells trailer. All Crystal Palace ever give us is endless trails for London Live 94.9 which no one listens to anyway.
It's a pity the BBC are doing so much for some counties in the South East like Kent, East Sussex and Oxfordshire - and yet completely ignoring certain others.
It's a pity the BBC are doing so much for some counties in the South East like Kent, East Sussex and Oxfordshire - and yet completely ignoring certain others.
MA
It's a pity the BBC are doing so much for some counties in the South East like Kent, East Sussex and Oxfordshire - and yet completely ignoring certain others.
It's about time. Kent and East sussex, both with sizable populations, have been ignored by the BBC for the past 60 years.
Marcus
Founding member
RW posted:
It's a pity the BBC are doing so much for some counties in the South East like Kent, East Sussex and Oxfordshire - and yet completely ignoring certain others.
It's about time. Kent and East sussex, both with sizable populations, have been ignored by the BBC for the past 60 years.
SO
SittingOvation
I wouldn't know for myself, but I've read so much over the years about NSE (and it's previous incarnations) being London obsessed and not giving it's other areas such as Kent, East Sussex and Oxfordshire (as was) much of a look in.
It seems to me the most obvious fact imaginable that LONDON BELIEVES ITSELF TO BE THE CENTRE OF THE UNIVERSE. Therefore I find it odd that the BBC didn't have separate services for London and other parts of the southeast from the beginning - surely they could have forseen that a programme for the whole southeast would quickly fall into London obsessed habits?
Once I saw a London newspaper's job section an advert for 'Jobs in the North'. As I read further, the jobs were in Leicestershire! So, if London thinks Leicestershire is 'The North', then Berwick-upon-Tweed must be at the edge of the universe, and Scotland doesn't exist!
Madness!
(Edited by SittingOvation at 12:04 am on Aug. 24, 2001)
It seems to me the most obvious fact imaginable that LONDON BELIEVES ITSELF TO BE THE CENTRE OF THE UNIVERSE. Therefore I find it odd that the BBC didn't have separate services for London and other parts of the southeast from the beginning - surely they could have forseen that a programme for the whole southeast would quickly fall into London obsessed habits?
Once I saw a London newspaper's job section an advert for 'Jobs in the North'. As I read further, the jobs were in Leicestershire! So, if London thinks Leicestershire is 'The North', then Berwick-upon-Tweed must be at the edge of the universe, and Scotland doesn't exist!
Madness!
(Edited by SittingOvation at 12:04 am on Aug. 24, 2001)
RW
RW
[quote="marcus"]
It's about time. Kent and East sussex, both with sizable populations, have been ignored by the BBC for the past 60 years.
Surrey also has a sizeable population but we're still being ignored. We don't even get our own BBC local radio station.
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It's about time. Kent and East sussex, both with sizable populations, have been ignored by the BBC for the past 60 years.
Surrey also has a sizeable population but we're still being ignored. We don't even get our own BBC local radio station.
MA
Marcus
Founding member
[quote="RW"]
It's about time. Kent and East sussex, both with sizable populations, have been ignored by the BBC for the past 60 years.
Surrey also has a sizeable population but we're still being ignored. We don't even get our own BBC local radio station.
What do u call Southern Counties Radio Then? Isn't it based in Guildford?
marcus posted:
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It's about time. Kent and East sussex, both with sizable populations, have been ignored by the BBC for the past 60 years.
Surrey also has a sizeable population but we're still being ignored. We don't even get our own BBC local radio station.
What do u call Southern Counties Radio Then? Isn't it based in Guildford?
RW
RW
marcus posted:
What do u call Southern Counties Radio Then? Isn't it based in Guildford?
It certainly is, but it's doesn't feel very local, it's still mainly concerned with Sussex, and they're moving back to Brighton soon anyway. BBC Radio Surrey used to be much better.
(Edited by RW at 3:05 pm on Aug. 24, 2001)
SO
SittingOvation
RW posted:
Surrey also has a sizeable population but we're still being ignored. We don't even get our own BBC local radio station.
If it's alright for Newcastle to use a slightly long-winded name for their region (BBC North East & Cumbria, of course) in order to be accurate, then perhaps the new London region should follow their example.
It should be called 'BBC London & Home Counties', so as to give some acknowledgement to the existence of places like Surrey, Hertfordshire etc. I bet people living in such areas are sick-to -the-back-teeth of being grouped under the 'London' banner in outsiders' minds.
I also think that (supposing these were the only two choices) the news programme should be called London Plus, rather than London Live - so as to imply that the programmes patch wasn't purely Greater London.
(Edited by SittingOvation at 3:21 pm on Aug. 24, 2001)
RW
RW
I'd certianly go along with all that, especially about bringing back the name London Plus. Then I think BBC London Live should be renamed BBC Radio London - and it'd be like the 1980s all over again! Happy days...
MA
mark
Founding member
I was listening to London live the other day and noticed that the jingles/stings etc all say 'BBC London..............Live'. Could this big pause be preparation for changing the name to 'BBC London', as speculated earlier in the month?! If they rebrand when the new London TV news launches, all they need to do is chop of the bit that says 'live' and it'll sound OK!
Strange that we still haven't heard a name for the new programme though - personally I think London Live would be a great name. But London Plus is also a possibilty - after all, BBC West reverted to 'Points West' after years of News West!
Strange that we still haven't heard a name for the new programme though - personally I think London Live would be a great name. But London Plus is also a possibilty - after all, BBC West reverted to 'Points West' after years of News West!
RW
RW
It'll be interesting to see what the continuity announcement for Newsroom South East will be when Kent departs. At the moment it's always: ‘Now on BBC ONE, the news in London and the South East, with Tim Donovan/Gillian Joseph'. Will the ‘South East' bit remain after South East Today starts, bearing in mind that (BBC?) London (Live/Plus?) doesn't start until October?
I tend to doubt the London Plus name will be revived, but if the BBC truly haven't decided yet (when for months we were all referring to it as London Live) then it must surely be in the running. As we have discussed before, the obvious London Today/Tonight is used by Carlton, so after Plus and Live, there really aren't any other sensible possibilities. BBC London? I don't think so. So it'll probably be London Live.
(Edited by RW at 3:47 pm on Aug. 24, 2001)
I tend to doubt the London Plus name will be revived, but if the BBC truly haven't decided yet (when for months we were all referring to it as London Live) then it must surely be in the running. As we have discussed before, the obvious London Today/Tonight is used by Carlton, so after Plus and Live, there really aren't any other sensible possibilities. BBC London? I don't think so. So it'll probably be London Live.
(Edited by RW at 3:47 pm on Aug. 24, 2001)