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james-20014,102 posts since 13 Sep 2015
Central (East) East Midlands Today
Wouldn't be suprised if they kept it, there's a lot of money to be made from them. The old Cosgrove Hall archive especially.

Speaking of that, Thames/Fremantle kept hold of the Cosgrove Hall archive after CH went to Anglia in the mid-90s. I've noticed Cosgrove's Hall's first show after Thames lost their licence was Avenger Penguins, which has a Granada copyright and originally went out with a Granada endcap, though it looks like Thames/Pearson/Fremantle held on to the rights to the show.
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Whataday9,414 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
All this nostalgia has opened my ears to the opening notes of Sooty & Co, which are clearly a nod to the previous Sooty Show theme.


Talking of theme tunes, the slow version of that Sooty Show theme used to close the episodes in 1981 before it was normally replaced by the familiar “Sooty the Magical Bear” instrumental from 1983 onwards. I haven’t managed to find an episode online with that slow theme intact (most uploads from that era are from a VHS compilation with the opening and closing titles cut out).


There was also a slow version of the Sooty & Co theme occasionally used.
DJF202 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Talking of theme tunes, the slow version of that Sooty Show theme used to close the episodes in 1981 before it was normally replaced by the familiar “Sooty the Magical Bear” instrumental from 1983 onwards. I haven’t managed to find an episode online with that slow theme intact (most uploads from that era are from a VHS compilation with the opening and closing titles cut out).


Do you mean this one Si? It's on a handful of the eps that are on Youtube if you search by name (Matthew's Car, Connie Comes to Tea etc.) - though some of the uploads loop back to the beginning of the ep, so the closing credits will sometimes be 5 mins or more before the end of the actual video (the one below is OK).

JamesM0984741 posts since 21 Jun 2018
Central (East) East Midlands Today
I had no idea Rod, Jane and Freddy were still active into the Sooty and Co. era! A huge, huge, huge part of my childhood via Rainbow and later on their own programme. I assumed they disbanded after Thames lost their franchise and both shows were axed, that was that.

Lisa's channel is an amazing resource for all things RJF by the way.
Whataday9,414 posts since 13 Sep 2001
HTV Wales Wales Today
I had no idea Rod, Jane and Freddy were still active into the Sooty and Co. era! A huge, huge, huge part of my childhood via Rainbow and later on their own programme. I assumed they disbanded after Thames lost their franchise and both shows were axed, that was that.


They remained active until around 1996, touring theatres and appearing in pantomimes each year. They were good friends with Matthew (the trio having been Rod, Matt & Jane in the 70s) and I expect they were grateful for the exposure of their Sooty & Co appearance. Of course, Jane & Freddy are unlikely to disband having recently got married after 30 years together.

They were one of several acts that were huge in the 80s but seemed consigned to history in the new franchise period:

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Si-Co1,956 posts since 2 Oct 2003
Tyne Tees Look North (North East)

Talking of theme tunes, the slow version of that Sooty Show theme used to close the episodes in 1981 before it was normally replaced by the familiar “Sooty the Magical Bear” instrumental from 1983 onwards. I haven’t managed to find an episode online with that slow theme intact (most uploads from that era are from a VHS compilation with the opening and closing titles cut out).


Do you mean this one Si? It's on a handful of the eps that are on Youtube if you search by name (Matthew's Car, Connie Comes to Tea etc.) - though some of the uploads loop back to the beginning of the ep, so the closing credits will sometimes be 5 mins or more before the end of the actual video (the one below is OK).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkAlE0qBceo


Just seen this post, Dan. Yes - that’s the theme I meant! It was only used for two series as far as I know - both made in 1981. The first episode of the 1983 series used this theme, but from episode two it was replaced with the Sooty the Magical Bear instrumental, which stuck around for the rest of the Thames run, I think.

That slow theme was rarely played in full - I think you’ve found one of the ones that did use the full thing!!
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DJF202 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Central (East) East Midlands Today

Just seen this post, Dan. Yes - that’s the theme I meant! It was only used for two series as far as I know - both made in 1981. The first episode of the 1983 series used this theme, but from episode two it was replaced with the Sooty the Magical Bear instrumental, which stuck around for the rest of the Thames run, I think.


Though speaking of the bedroom, the first ep of the Autumn 1981 series (three eps before the one I previously posted) had this song and 'sleepy' end theme with an all-too-familiar tune...

(song starts at 17:25, end theme at 19:45)