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Funny that, seeing as it was in a chat on MSN messenger in August that you told me your name.
<shrugs>
If you'd rather I returned to calling you c@t from now on, just say. Of course, you'll have to call me Mr Green.
I was disagreeing with your blanket statement that it was 'common sense', when it was actually an opinion.
However my opinion is that I agree with signing being included, but personally, think it's time that a method was devised to include signing as an optional extra in a separate broadcast stream. As far as I am concerned, it's a compromise position that will annoy some deaf and some hearing people in different ways, but it's better than not making the effort at all.
By the way, Paul, my deaf friend, says he finds it useful from time to time. He's not keen on subtitles, because he says they're not always the same as what people are saying (and also, because of the syntax of BSL, that the meaning of what's being said, including people's attitudes can sometimes be more accurately reflected in BSL - for him).
Don't actually remember the conversation, but i'll let you off, Mr Green.
Would agree with the idea that there should be some sort of optional signing service, and I believe Sky were toying with the idea a while ago. Can't really be very long until it becomes de rigeur.
With regards to common sense - I think, taking that term as literally as I can, the consensus on the issue would be to get rid of it. I doubt that the vast majority of News 24 viewers (i.e. those who are not deaf) would care a jot if it vanished or not. This isn't on the grounds of discrimination, some sort of dislike for deaf people, but just because it is entirely pointless for probably about 99% of the audience.
Neil Green posted:
c@t posted:
Didn't realise we were on a first name basis.
Funny that, seeing as it was in a chat on MSN messenger in August that you told me your name.
<shrugs>
If you'd rather I returned to calling you c@t from now on, just say. Of course, you'll have to call me Mr Green.
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I am well aware that other people are entitled to an opinion, and indeed I am interested in yours... though you argue that people are entitled to an opinion on this matter, you do not appear to have one of your own. How odd.
I was disagreeing with your blanket statement that it was 'common sense', when it was actually an opinion.
However my opinion is that I agree with signing being included, but personally, think it's time that a method was devised to include signing as an optional extra in a separate broadcast stream. As far as I am concerned, it's a compromise position that will annoy some deaf and some hearing people in different ways, but it's better than not making the effort at all.
By the way, Paul, my deaf friend, says he finds it useful from time to time. He's not keen on subtitles, because he says they're not always the same as what people are saying (and also, because of the syntax of BSL, that the meaning of what's being said, including people's attitudes can sometimes be more accurately reflected in BSL - for him).
Don't actually remember the conversation, but i'll let you off, Mr Green.
Would agree with the idea that there should be some sort of optional signing service, and I believe Sky were toying with the idea a while ago. Can't really be very long until it becomes de rigeur.
With regards to common sense - I think, taking that term as literally as I can, the consensus on the issue would be to get rid of it. I doubt that the vast majority of News 24 viewers (i.e. those who are not deaf) would care a jot if it vanished or not. This isn't on the grounds of discrimination, some sort of dislike for deaf people, but just because it is entirely pointless for probably about 99% of the audience.