It's very hard teaching young children to spell because we have words with the same spelling / different sounds (good and food) and same sounds / different spelling (food and rude).
Oh dear! Poor old Mr Moog must be turning in his grave at the thought of that cartoon character. Is it pronounced the same as Moog synthesiser (rhymes with Vogue)?
Hehehe... I like those last 2 posts. Even if there was a lot of words and some bloomin' long complicated ones in there, like Americanisms Americanisms don't really bother me as that Mellie from the Telly says, some actually make more sense than the proper English words. Anyhoo enuff of that. ( did ya see that i spelt as i speak)
So long as i can pretty much understand what someone is trying to say. Grammar and spelling isn't that important to me. Internet forums i definately will forgive for being poor on such matters, Newspapers can also be forgiven. I get a little bit annoyed when i buy a book and see it littered with spelling and punctuation errors. The publishers employ proof readers and they're paid to pick up on simple errors.
Any accent North of Watford i have trouble understanding. Sometimes i feel really rude as i have to keep asking a scouser, scot or Geordie to repeat their sentence. I have family ooop Norf. It's great until we get a few drinks inside us. They're all Dook ( duck) Moog ( mug) and i have quite a strong Thames Estuary accent.
Now why is it i can distinguish an Manc accent from a Geordie accent? I can even tell the difference between an Australian and New zealand accent. * smug look * Yet Scots and Mancs immediately think i am from London. I'm offended i sound way more common than those city riff raff
You don't want to sound like somebody from London... I think it's all that rancid air that makes them talk funny in the capital
I just hate people who deliberately employ Americanisms to sound trendy. Be proud of the British accents, you tw*ts! I also hate AQI, Australian Question Intonation. When you raise the tone of your voice at the end of sentence so it sounds like a question? It gets very irritating? Please don't do it? Because it's very f**king irritating?
I can see the argument with lift/ elevator, but lift is easier to say! Just as long as you don't say vacation instead of holiday, otherwise I may have to hurt you
I don't know
anyone
in Yorks who pronounces book 'bewk'?! That's definitely a NW England (especially Lancs/ Merseyside) and Scotland thing.
You can blame the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings for the north-south pronunciation differences. For many years way back when, the Vikings ruled northern England; they called it Danelaw, and if you draw a line between Shrewsbury and London, it gives you a rough idea where boundary is. Anglo- Saxons occupied southern England.
Vikings spoke Norse, which was related to Anglo-Saxon but was pronounced differently. In Norse 'å' sound in English is pronounced exactly the same as northern English 'oe' sound. In modern Norwegian words 'båt' (boat) and 'gå' (go), are pronounced exactly as they are in northern English 'boat' and 'go'. If that makes sense. That is also why in northern England the 'ay' sound (as in cake) is pronounced 'air', because of that Norse influence. Norwegians find the Geordie accent far easy to understand than any other English accent
Received Pronunciation (or Queen's English) orginates from the Anglo-Saxons in the south-east, so technically it is a regional accent. They are responsible for 'glarse' instead of glass etc. The A-S orginate from modern day Germany. The modern German for glass is 'Glas'... pronounced 'glarse' in German! Norwegians are sensible and pronounce it with a 'a' as in 'cat' I believe :
This divide is responsible for the difference in the way 'u' is pronounced acorss England. In southern England 'put' sounds like 'pat', whereas in northern England 'put' and 'putt' sound the same.
Norwegian is more precisely pronounced than German incidentally (think Trudue Mostu or whatever her name was!), so that's why northern English sounds more precisely pronounced.
Estuary English is really a halfway house between Received Pronunciation and traditional accents of Kent, Essex etc. According to linguists, Estaury is used by people trying to disguise their class or regional accent. It is also used by Paul Merton, and Tony Blair when he is trying to get down with the kids
Well we blame the Germans for everything don't we If you are really interested in all this, read Bill Bryson's
Mother Tongue
. It's Magnus Magnusson's favourite book (well that's what he said on
Countdown
anyway). It is very readable though.
Hehehe... I like those last 2 posts. Even if there was a lot of words and some bloomin' long complicated ones in there, like Americanisms Americanisms don't really bother me as that Mellie from the Telly says, some actually make more sense than the proper English words. Anyhoo enuff of that. ( did ya see that i spelt as i speak)
So long as i can pretty much understand what someone is trying to say. Grammar and spelling isn't that important to me. Internet forums i definately will forgive for being poor on such matters, Newspapers can also be forgiven. I get a little bit annoyed when i buy a book and see it littered with spelling and punctuation errors. The publishers employ proof readers and they're paid to pick up on simple errors.
Any accent North of Watford i have trouble understanding. Sometimes i feel really rude as i have to keep asking a scouser, scot or Geordie to repeat their sentence. I have family ooop Norf. It's great until we get a few drinks inside us. They're all Dook ( duck) Moog ( mug) and i have quite a strong Thames Estuary accent.
Now why is it i can distinguish an Manc accent from a Geordie accent? I can even tell the difference between an Australian and New zealand accent. * smug look * Yet Scots and Mancs immediately think i am from London. I'm offended i sound way more common than those city riff raff
You don't want to sound like somebody from London... I think it's all that rancid air that makes them talk funny in the capital
I just hate people who deliberately employ Americanisms to sound trendy. Be proud of the British accents, you tw*ts! I also hate AQI, Australian Question Intonation. When you raise the tone of your voice at the end of sentence so it sounds like a question? It gets very irritating? Please don't do it? Because it's very f**king irritating?
I can see the argument with lift/ elevator, but lift is easier to say! Just as long as you don't say vacation instead of holiday, otherwise I may have to hurt you
I don't know
anyone
in Yorks who pronounces book 'bewk'?! That's definitely a NW England (especially Lancs/ Merseyside) and Scotland thing.
You can blame the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings for the north-south pronunciation differences. For many years way back when, the Vikings ruled northern England; they called it Danelaw, and if you draw a line between Shrewsbury and London, it gives you a rough idea where boundary is. Anglo- Saxons occupied southern England.
Vikings spoke Norse, which was related to Anglo-Saxon but was pronounced differently. In Norse 'å' sound in English is pronounced exactly the same as northern English 'oe' sound. In modern Norwegian words 'båt' (boat) and 'gå' (go), are pronounced exactly as they are in northern English 'boat' and 'go'. If that makes sense. That is also why in northern England the 'ay' sound (as in cake) is pronounced 'air', because of that Norse influence. Norwegians find the Geordie accent far easy to understand than any other English accent
Received Pronunciation (or Queen's English) orginates from the Anglo-Saxons in the south-east, so technically it is a regional accent. They are responsible for 'glarse' instead of glass etc. The A-S orginate from modern day Germany. The modern German for glass is 'Glas'... pronounced 'glarse' in German! Norwegians are sensible and pronounce it with a 'a' as in 'cat' I believe :
This divide is responsible for the difference in the way 'u' is pronounced acorss England. In southern England 'put' sounds like 'pat', whereas in northern England 'put' and 'putt' sound the same.
Norwegian is more precisely pronounced than German incidentally (think Trudue Mostu or whatever her name was!), so that's why northern English sounds more precisely pronounced.
Estuary English is really a halfway house between Received Pronunciation and traditional accents of Kent, Essex etc. According to linguists, Estaury is used by people trying to disguise their class or regional accent. It is also used by Paul Merton, and Tony Blair when he is trying to get down with the kids
Well we blame the Germans for everything don't we If you are really interested in all this, read Bill Bryson's
Mother Tongue
. It's Magnus Magnusson's favourite book (well that's what he said on
Countdown
anyway). It is very readable though.
Can footballer commentators and scriptwriters of
The Bill
take note:
Stop using result to soley mean a positive outcome. You "get a result" whatever happens, good or bad!
I've thought of a few more:
Double negatives. Two negatives make a positive. What does "I haven't done nothing" mean literally?
Very/ quite/ fairly unique: Something is either unique or it isn't, antique experts!
Almost certain(ly): Certain means 100% sure. Therefore you can't be almost certain-- you can be very sure though!
If you think about these things, they do make sense. Trust me
Would you please join Metropol. Mr. Nick and i have been discussing this thread we both like it and it really belongs in the lounge. Come join us and open a similar thread. I could learn alot and Mr . Nick and the other intellects would partake, i'm certain of it.
Btw.. I did a little AOL Grammar quiz and i got a 8 out of 10. * falls over*
Can footballer commentators and scriptwriters of
The Bill
take note:
Stop using result to soley mean a positive outcome. You "get a result" whatever happens, good or bad!
I've thought of a few more:
Double negatives. Two negatives make a positive. What does "I haven't done nothing" mean literally?
Very/ quite/ fairly unique: Something is either unique or it isn't, antique experts!
Almost certain(ly): Certain means 100% sure. Therefore you can't be almost certain-- you can be very sure though!
If you think about these things, they do make sense. Trust me
The first two are slang terms.
Fairly unique - i.e. something may be one of a kind, but there will be items with a similar design or a similar texture.
Almost certain - you've answered your own question - almost 100% sure, i.e. 98%!
I may be wrong, but I didn't get the A* in GCSE English for nothing!
What I meant, was that "certain" and "unique" are absolute adjectives-- therefore you can only be certain or not certain. Unique or not unique.
Unique means one of a kind. Something may have similar features and so on, but it is not exactly the same, thus not unique. For something to be unique, there has to be nothing else
exactly
like it-- one of a kind. Check any style guide, or better still Bill Bryson's
Troublesome Words
. Something that is "fairly unique" is just 'similar' or very 'similar' to something else.
Saying something is "fairly unique" or "quite unique", is like saying somebody is "fairly dead" or "quite dead" Dead is a perfect (if not morbid) example of an absolute adjective-- can't be qualified in anyway.
As for "result"... I know it's slang, so it might be excusable on
The Bill
(even though it's completely stupid slang); but 'professional' sports presenters saying it? It is illogical, a result is an end outcome-- good or bad. A bad outcome is still a result.
You may have an A-star GCSE in English; but I have a 2:1 BA Hons degree in journalism, so there
but I have a 2:1 BA Hons degree in journalism, so there
So do three of my friends. Two of them are now on the dole and the other works in McDonalds full time. You'd have been better off studying English or History rather than journalism.
but I have a 2:1 BA Hons degree in journalism, so there
So do three of my friends. Two of them are now on the dole and the other works in McDonalds full time. You'd have been better off studying English or History rather than journalism.
Possibly, but I have a nicely-paid fulltime job at British Geological Survey, thanking you. Admittedly being on the dole isn't nice, but there are far worse things than working at McDonalds
Besides doesn't seem to matter which degree you get , getting on the career ladder is extremely difficult for a graduate these days.
Americanisms don't really bother me as that Mellie from the Telly says, some actually make more sense than the proper English words. Anyhoo enuff of that. ( did ya see that i spelt as i speak)
That's definitely a NW England (especially Lancs/ Merseyside) and Scotland thing.
Dead is a perfect (if not morbid) example of an absolute adjective-- can't be qualified in anyway.
