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Neil Jones5,441 posts since 23 Dec 2001
Central (West) Midlands Today
If you ask Sky nicely enough and/or commit to a lengthy enough contract you can sometimes get discounted or even free SkyQ installation, but its far easier (especially if you're on the older Sky+HD package) to secure a discount which can mean HD can sometimes be thrown in for free.

With regards to the hybrid LNB, I believe its the Sky version you get by default unless you ask the engineer nicely, and feed them enough tea and biscuits (a principle which applies to everything really I find but there we go).
noggin14,455 posts since 26 Jun 2001
My understanding is that there are probably 4 types of LNB that 'could' be supplied with Sky Q - but I don't know whether Sky installers carry them.

1. Sky Q is compatible with Wideband H/V LNBs (where a pair of LNB cables carry a wide band Horizontal or wide band Vertical feed - with no Hi/Lo switching) These two feeds are all you need to feed as many tuners as you like (previously you would have needed 4 LNB feeds from a regular Quad/Quattro Universal LNB to do this - and Sky wanted to be able to re-use existing 'Sky+' twin cabling so needed a better solution...)

These Wideband LNB feeds are only compatible with Sky Q (and relatively few other receivers - so aren't useful for Freesat were you to stop subscribing to Sky Q and return your receiver. This is very different to the older Sky SD and HD situation where you could swap out a Sky SD/HD box for a Freesat or other FTA box using the same LNB feeds)

2. Sky Q is also, I believe, compatible with Sky's new dSCR protocol (incompatible with the old Sky SCR system) which is based, I think, on JESS/Unicable II - where the LNB shifts tuner-feeds to fixed 'user bands' as requested by the receiver. This is very different to H/V Wideband in how it operates - and has a limit on the number of receivers each dSCR device can feed, but there are multi switches that can detect what type of receiver is connected to each port, allowing Sky Q and Sky HD/SD/Freesat receivers to share the same infrastructure I believe.

LNBs with both 1. and 2. are available with additional, separate legacy, LNB feeds, which can be routed separately and independently to feed older Sky, or non-Sky, receivers.

So you could have a Dual Wideband, Dual Wideband + Legacy, dSCR or dSCR + Legacy LNB (or multi switch) fitted for Sky Q...

it's a bit of a minefield when you get away from standard domestic installations.

Looking to the future - Unicable II is an incredibly powerful standard - as it removes H/V/Hi/Lo from distribution (as it's shifted it to the LNB or multiswitch).

In mainland Europe, where it is far more of a requirement to simultaneously feed multiple satellite positions to residences, Unicable II allows a single LNB feed to carry up to 32 tuner feeds (so 32 DVB-S2 IDTVs, 16 Dual Tuner PVRs, 8 Quad Tuner PVRs etc.), with each tuner able to switch between one of four satellite positions. That's pretty impressive down a single cable. It also allows for receivers to use 'FBC' Full Band Conversion DVB-S2 tuners that take one or two LNB feeds in but can then tune 8+ separate transponders irrespective of their satellite, polarisation or band.
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JetixFann450602 posts since 25 Mar 2013
STV Central Reporting Scotland
So I've tried looking for the advert that was broadcast a few days ago that had covered the history of Sky or something that was broadcast during GoT. Na-da. Nothing. I tried searching up terms like "sky believe in better advert 2019", "sky advert 2019" and whatever I could try to attempt to search for it and Google came up with nothing.

Couldn't find anything. I don't think anyone even recorded it and Sky themselves don't seem to acknowledge it on their Twitter or Facebook. Not even a single upload on YouTube. I saw tweets talking about it, especially with how Sky acknowledging their past and the fact it has been 30 years of Sky, but it seems like no one has it. It's lost media.
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FraserGJ79 posts since 18 Mar 2005
HTV Wales Wales Today
So I've tried looking for the advert that was broadcast a few days ago that had covered the history of Sky or something that was broadcast during GoT. Na-da. Nothing. I tried searching up terms like "sky believe in better advert 2019", "sky advert 2019" and whatever I could try to attempt to search for it and Google came up with nothing.

Couldn't find anything. I don't think anyone even recorded it and Sky themselves don't seem to acknowledge it on their Twitter or Facebook. Not even a single upload on YouTube. I saw tweets talking about it, especially with how Sky acknowledging their past and the fact it has been 30 years of Sky, but it seems like no one has it. It's lost media.


I saw it during the GoT finale, think it was on during the 9pm showing last night.

Started with a couple in a house with the wife looking through the curtains watching a neighbour getting a dish installed and scoffing about wanting all the new channels instead of staying with the main 4 etc. The husband clearly disagreed.

A quick montage of the changing sky logos followed by clips from various sky shows (mostly > 2000 stuff) then ended on '30 years of believing in better'
DVB Cornwall8,400 posts since 4 Dec 2003
Westcountry Spotlight
Odd Sky seem to have a new ad based around cycling and Team Sky winning the Tour de France six times when their sponsorship ended at the beginning of the month.


Initially the sponsorship was to end at the end of the 2019 season, Ineos I believe wanted to get on board earlier and Comcast were seemingly happy with this arrangement. Presumably the promo was made in line with the expected timescale and not ditched post rethink.