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EE
EastEngland
Race control does not work for my father, tells him he needs to upgrade his subscription, works fine for me who has the full pack.

He also cannot access Ultra HD via the red button as it tells him that he needs to upgrade his subscription but he can access Ultra HD via the i button and pressing select.

Then you have the very stupid situation with Ultra HD which my father can access for the limited sport coverage that is shown in it, despite not being able to see normal HD.
DV
dvboy
Sounds like it could be a difference in how the Sky+ and Sky Q boxes handle the red button?

Does seem unusual that your dad can watch things in UHD but not HD!

Ask him if he can access the showjumping via the red button on Sky Sports Arena after 2pm please.
EE
EastEngland
dvboy posted:
Sounds like it could be a difference in how the Sky+ and Sky Q boxes handle the red button?


It's something about the packs as well for sure, because for example my friend never had Box Sets, he had a legacy bundle called "Sky Q Bundle" this was before the current base TV packs were launched and he still had red-button, despite not having the full channel pack (it's similar to original), it's only since he was moved from his legacy package that he has lost red button.

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Does seem unusual that your dad can watch things in UHD but not HD!


That is because Ultra HD is included with Multiscreen for £12 per month which he pays for.

But it is stupid that you can have the Original Pack for £22 per month and pay £12 a month for multi-screen and get Ultra HD for free, but to get standard HD you need to pay £22 a month more (£38 variety + £6 upgrade)

So If a program broadcasts in UHD you can have UHD or Standard Versions, but only from the info menu not from the red button. If a program is in HD/SD you can only have SD versions.

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Ask him if he can access the showjumping via the red button on Sky Sports Arena after 2pm please.


Is that true red button content as opposed to additional features?
FO
Footballer
Could someone remove the off-topic posts? Thanks.
RO
rob Founding member
Could someone remove the off-topic posts? Thanks.


What's off topic?
DV
dvboy

Is that true red button content as opposed to additional features?
True red button:



EE
EastEngland
dvboy posted:

Is that true red button content as opposed to additional features?
True red button:





He can't get it. Sky told him after he called them that Red Button on Sky Q uses the Sky Sports App for the platform, which can only be obtained with the box sets pack.

The whole idea of sports channels for dedicated sports isn't well thought through, they need one more general sports channels and allow sports with dedicated channels to overspill onto them if required.

Cricket last night was a good example, after the England match they went straight to the T20, no analysis or even scorecard. That wouldn't have happened under the old system.

Hiding sports behind red button that not all Sky Sports subscribers can get whilst other sports channels show filler content shows the stupidity of this set-up.
TJ
TedJrr
rdd posted:
This is getting into a bit of educated guesswork, but going by the advanced schedules, it would appear 401 becomes a sort of premium counterpart to Sky Sports Mix.........


Sky Sports 1 and 2 (401 and 402) present an interesting challenge because they are the two Sky Sports channels carried gratis on BFBS. How would you map forces viewing onto two channels if the underlying output had been streamed into genre-based packages?

One solution would be to assume 401 (the "main" channel) is one of the two, and the other would itself be a compendium that mops up all the other football (sorry soccer) and rugby. This might not work well, whilst its an assumption that rugby and football is the lead audience, all sport generally is important to the forces.

There's a channel: BFBS Sports Extra , that takes coverage from the other Sky Sports channels as well as BBC, ITV4 etc. They also occasionally show forces sport.

Perhaps it might be possible for Sky and BT Sport to pick-up more forces sport, and not just to show the occasional Army -vs- Navy rugby?


It turns out that the answer is " Main Event " and " Cricket " . I wonder if it's a fair assumption that this is dynamic, and will change when the football season starts, or when a rugby autumn international comes on?
EE
EastEngland
The situation this afternoon however was silly.

You had a couple of hours of cricket, then it went over to F1 analysis an hour or so before qualifying even started, then qualifying, then more F1 analysis and back to cricket, if you wanted to watch cricket you'd be dead annoyed with that.

Now it's GAA (which is using the old graphics set)

This is the problem with main event for customers that don't subscribe with Sky direct, it jumps between sports all the time even when the sports it was earlier showing is still on.

Maye that's a Sky idea though to force people to coming direct.
DV
dvboy
dvboy posted:

Is that true red button content as opposed to additional features?
True red button:





He can't get it. Sky told him after he called them that Red Button on Sky Q uses the Sky Sports App for the platform, which can only be obtained with the box sets pack.

The whole idea of sports channels for dedicated sports isn't well thought through, they need one more general sports channels and allow sports with dedicated channels to overspill onto them if required.

Cricket last night was a good example, after the England match they went straight to the T20, no analysis or even scorecard. That wouldn't have happened under the old system.

Hiding sports behind red button that not all Sky Sports subscribers can get whilst other sports channels show filler content shows the stupidity of this set-up.


Understand it now, definitely sounds like a difference between Sky+ and Sky Q.

Totally agree the new setup of dedicated channels doesn't really work, and Main Event seems completely pointless unless they are going to use it to their advantage when stuff does overlap, like in your example of the cricket last night. But then those that can't get Main Event because they didn't subscribe to all of the channels would lose out if something was put on Main Event only.

They've used Mix for overlap in the past. I remember tennis finishing close to the start of something else in the past and so they went to Mix for the analysis, I think it was for a final of Masters that Murray played otherwise they wouldn't have bothered.
DV
dvboy
Sky Sports F1 currently showing a qualifying lap interview with Sebastian Vettel that was done for the Italian version of the channel in English (mostly), at the Sky Pad which has the Italian version of the logos on the screen and microphones.
LL
London Lite Founding member
I noticed last week during the Tour de France, the Sky Sports reporters from across Europe were all penned together to interview the riders, including the UK.

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