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rdd2,579 posts since 21 Jun 2001
ISTR that Sky News Ireland was shown on Sky1 (or Sky One at the time) in an attempt to bolster viewing figures for that program.

That's true, though IIRC it was only the early edition.

During the 1990s Sky One certainly was thought of, in Ireland at least, as "the fifth UK terrestrial" though that was in an era when the amount of cable/satellite channels carried was a lot lower and Sky One was the only general entertainment one. I'm not sure it was ever true for the UK itself and a lot of the types of first run US programming formerly synominous with Sky One would now air on E4, Sky Atlantic or elsewhere.
VMPhil7,138 posts since 31 Mar 2005
Granada North West Today
Sky 1 is really poor these days. Most of the good stuff appears to been hived off to Sky Atlantic and so it makes for a really mediocre offering. It certainly isn't the '6th channel'.


This. A Guardian podcast (IIRC it was the Guardian) made a point that Sky's main channels - One, Living and Atlantic - are so similar that the hosts couldn't correctly guess which channel certain programmes were on. Since Atlantic is developing its own homegrown stuff as opposed to HBO imports, and Living has "un-feminined" itself to show more drama etc and become more generic, Sky essentially have three of the same channel.

Sky could well do with considering a consolidation of their channels. For various reasons Sky Atlantic will always remain separate, but I don't think they'd lose much from merging Sky1 with Sky Living. Let's not forget they also have Sky2 and Sky Livingit, which are basically catch up versions of the main channels and not much else.
Mr Kite815 posts since 15 Aug 2007
Granada North West Today
[quote="flaziola" pid="941736"During the 1990s Sky One certainly was thought of, in Ireland at least, as "the fifth UK terrestrial" though that was in an era when the amount of cable/satellite channels carried was a lot lower and Sky One was the only general entertainment one. I'm not sure it was ever true for the UK itself and a lot of the types of first run US programming formerly synominous with Sky One would now air on E4, Sky Atlantic or elsewhere.


I'd say it was in the UK too, though perhaps "sixth" after Channel 5 went on air. I remember when we only had terrestrial and it was annoying talking to people in school who had sky or cable about what was on last night. The programme in question would nearly always be on Sky 1. Then, when we got cable in 2001, we watched that channel a lot. It was like the terrestrial channels with its mainstream entertainment content. I don't watch it nearly as much these days.
nwtv20037,913 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Granada North West Today
Sky 1 is really poor these days. Most of the good stuff appears to been hived off to Sky Atlantic and so it makes for a really mediocre offering. It certainly isn't the '6th channel'.


This. A Guardian podcast (IIRC it was the Guardian) made a point that Sky's main channels - One, Living and Atlantic - are so similar that the hosts couldn't correctly guess which channel certain programmes were on. Since Atlantic is developing its own homegrown stuff as opposed to HBO imports, and Living has "un-feminined" itself to show more drama etc and become more generic, Sky essentially have three of the same channel.

Sky could well do with considering a consolidation of their channels. For various reasons Sky Atlantic will always remain separate, but I don't think they'd lose much from merging Sky1 with Sky Living. Let's not forget they also have Sky2 and Sky Livingit, which are basically catch up versions of the main channels and not much else.


They've not done themselves any favours by neutralising Sky Living, at least when it more themed it had a direction and an audience but they're sticking on several US programmes that could be on 1 or Atlantic. I like Sky1, only because it shows endless Simpsons and Futurama repeats, some home grown stuff is ok, but as said the content is very thinly spread across the main 3 channels, I don't see the point of Sky2 and Sky LivingIt with their current output.
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London Lite7,058 posts since 4 Jan 2003
London London
I agree that Sky1 has been diluted by Atlantic and Living. I only really watch it for The Simpsons, The Flash and Trollied these days.

Some of the daytime filler has already been shown on Pick and then back on Sky1. Shows such as Scandal and Criminal Minds should be on Sky1 leaving Sky Living with a female slant.

Although it has to be said my favourite British offering is Psychob*tches which is on Sky Arts 1.
Brekkie27,015 posts since 4 Jan 2003
HTV Wales Wales Today
No doubt they overlap but Sky's business is selling subscriptions and on paper at least having Sky 1/Atlantic/Living looks more appealing than just the one or two entertainment channels. Sky1 has probably just about overcome it's clashes with Atlantic now but as others have said Sky Living has kind of morphed into what it once was. Wasn't there rumours of a new male entertainment based channel on the way too?
Shouldn't that have been posted in the "John Logie Baird has Invented Television" thread?
Critique2,776 posts since 9 Aug 2009
Anglia (East) Look East
No doubt they overlap but Sky's business is selling subscriptions and on paper at least having Sky 1/Atlantic/Living looks more appealing than just the one or two entertainment channels. Sky1 has probably just about overcome it's clashes with Atlantic now but as others have said Sky Living has kind of morphed into what it once was. Wasn't there rumours of a new male entertainment based channel on the way too?


I think the trademark 'Sky Bravo' was registered or something, wasn't it? The original Bravo was part of the Virgin Media portfolio of channels which was subsequently sold to Sky, with Bravo closed, I think?
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nwtv20037,913 posts since 5 Jan 2003
Granada North West Today
No doubt they overlap but Sky's business is selling subscriptions and on paper at least having Sky 1/Atlantic/Living looks more appealing than just the one or two entertainment channels. Sky1 has probably just about overcome it's clashes with Atlantic now but as others have said Sky Living has kind of morphed into what it once was. Wasn't there rumours of a new male entertainment based channel on the way too?


I think the trademark 'Sky Bravo' was registered or something, wasn't it? The original Bravo was part of the Virgin Media portfolio of channels which was subsequently sold to Sky, with Bravo closed, I think?


Yep that was the case, the whole Virgin Media Television business was sold to Sky in 2010, only Living and Challenege was kept, Bravo and Virgin One were binned off almost straight away. They've only recently re-registered the Sky Bravo name, but I don't think anything will come of it.

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Didn't Channel 5 simulcast Sunrise at one point?


Yep, between 2002 and I think either 2007/8, but by the end it was only shown for an hour on Saturday mornings oddly.

I don't object to Sky simulcasting Sky News on Sky 1 if they're trying to sell themselves as a mainstream channel, but as discussed it doesn't feel that mainstream when the bulk of their most popular output is repeats of Simpsons and Futurama.
steve
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