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Full scale war breaks out - Peace reached with 4.5hrs to go, (January 2017)

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OR
orange
I wanted to see if my Dad would find about it without me saying anything (he likes Eurosport) to see if the Discovery campaign was working- it did, he was talking to me about it today and we're saying bye to Sky Shocked
DV
dvboy
I think it's still premature to be cancelling Sky just yet, there is the small chance it gets resolved.
VM
VMPhil
dvboy posted:
Eurosport slightly ruining the Australian Open win there by talking about this dispute over scenes of Federer celebrating. Could have waited a few minutes lads.

No - exactly the right time to do it. I'm surprised they didn't run the ticker over match point.

One thing - why direct everyone to moan to @skyhelpteam? That's the technical supports twitter address - better would be to tweet the corporate one - much further up the boardroom chain.


Ran it a few times during the match, over replays.

Someone at Sky has to read and respond to tweets to the @SkyHelpTeam account. The corporate one is probably run by the press office and likely isn't monitored.

Also, @SkyHelpTeam is the Twitter account that Discovery viewers are being told to tweet to, as it's mentioned in the ticker currently appearing.
OR
orange
dvboy posted:
I think it's still premature to be cancelling Sky just yet, there is the small chance it gets resolved.

He said he doesn't like paying the amount he does for it.
SD
sda|
I'm surprised anyone pays a high price for Sky as it's so easy to call "to leave" and get a discount
NG
noggin Founding member
Eurosport slightly ruining the Australian Open win there by talking about this dispute over scenes of Federer celebrating. Could have waited a few minutes lads.


Totally disagree. That was probably their audience peak for the day. If you want to make sure the largest number of people know about it - that's precisely the time to discuss it.
HA
harshy Founding member

Oh, I agree, but you wouldn't use Astra 28E for purely distribution, would you, cheaper to rent space on a non DTH satellite, or are you thinking of short term, until something more suitable can be arranged ?

Well no, for all the reasons Noggin mentioned earlier.

But if they did then it would be a temporary solution until it returns (which it will eventually)

Maybe put the uk channels along with the other discovery network channels on 0.8w/4.8e for Virgin to pick up until it's resolved?
NG
noggin Founding member

Oh, I agree, but you wouldn't use Astra 28E for purely distribution, would you, cheaper to rent space on a non DTH satellite, or are you thinking of short term, until something more suitable can be arranged ?

Well no, for all the reasons Noggin mentioned earlier.

But if they did then it would be a temporary solution until it returns (which it will eventually)

Maybe put the uk channels along with the other discovery network channels on 0.8w/4.8e for Virgin to pick up until it's resolved?


Why do people think that the Sky thing has anything to do with Virgin accessing the feeds?

I'd be surprised if the feeds to Virgin's main headend areas weren't fibre these days. Don't see any need for satellite. AIUI you dont have to be downlinked in every town for Virgin these days (not like the old days of individual cable companies in each region). Virgin have centralised head-end operations and fibre distribution TO their nodes, and expect most channels to be delivered over fibre (well the mainstream ones)

AIUI the main terrestrials deliver an uncompressed HD-SDI quality fibre feed to Virgin. Wouldn't be at all surprised if Sky, Discovery etc. didn't do similarly. (Cable in Ireland may be a different kettle of fish)
BR
Brekkie
It was the exclusive UK broadcast of a fairly historic sporting moment where the commentators were talking about company issues rather than reflecting on the moment. It was highly unprofessional.

The BBC has been under considerable pressure over recent years but not once has live sporting commentary been interupted by tickers or pleas asking viewers to get in touch with the DCMS to make sure the BBC has sufficient funding to show the events people want to see.
HA
harshy Founding member
Well no, for all the reasons Noggin mentioned earlier.

But if they did then it would be a temporary solution until it returns (which it will eventually)

Maybe put the uk channels along with the other discovery network channels on 0.8w/4.8e for Virgin to pick up until it's resolved?


Why do people think that the Sky thing has anything to do with Virgin accessing the feeds. I'd be surprised if the feeds to Virgin's main headend areas weren't fibre these days.

Yeah I guess we will know for sure in two and a bit days time. But for reasons you've mentioned already, it would be surprising if Virgin were using off air Sky feeds.
NG
noggin Founding member
It was the exclusive UK broadcast of a fairly historic sporting moment where the commentators were talking about company issues rather than reflecting on the moment. It was highly unprofessional.


I disagree. This is a very significant dispute. Subscribers paying Sky for access to Eurosport need to be aware they will lose the channel unless they make their views clear. I don't see it as unprofessional at all.

Quote:

The BBC has been under considerable pressure over recent years but not once has live sporting commentary been interupted by tickers or pleas asking viewers to get in touch with the DCMS to make sure the BBC has sufficient funding to show the events people want to see.


Very different situation - the BBC are not being removed from a platform through a funding disagreement in the same way - and their funding is set by government, not through commercial agreements with a monopoly operator.
VM
VMPhil
Eurosport slightly ruining the Australian Open win there by talking about this dispute over scenes of Federer celebrating. Could have waited a few minutes lads.


Totally disagree. That was probably their audience peak for the day. If you want to make sure the largest number of people know about it - that's precisely the time to discuss it.

Oh, I'm sure, but it could have been done with more consideration than the way it was done. Left me with a bad taste personally.

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