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Sky Arts goes FTA

Available on Freeview channel 11 from Sept. 17th

HT
HTV Best West Country (East) Points West
What happened to the bandwidth that Pick+1 used? Maybe they will use that?
PF
PFML84 UTV Newsline
It was on COM 7. The channel closed down, possibly so others from COM 8 could move across as COM 8 itself completely closed.

I do remember reading on another forum recently that there was space for another 24 hour stream on one of the MUX's, so perhaps this is where Sky Arts will fit in, meaning Pick and Challenge won't have to close at all?
MO
Mockah Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
It was on COM 8 which closed down so it isn't there to be reused.

I do remember reading on another forum recently that there was space for another 24 hour stream on one of the MUX's, so perhaps this is where Sky Arts will fit in, meaning Pick and Challenge won't have to close at all.


*COM7, not 8. Laughing


Oops, you corrected it. My sincere apologies.
Last edited by Mockah on 28 July 2020 12:29pm
JO
Jonwo
Pick will get priority over Challenge because it’s Sky’s shop window for its Pay TV services and sadly Challenge is an odd duck in Sky’s portfolio of channels, it’ll either close or they’ll sell it.
Last edited by Jonwo on 28 July 2020 1:00pm
LL
London Lite Founding member London London
I do hope Challenge doesn't close on Freeview - the only bit of entertainment and nonsense to enjoy after a hard day at work. It would be a sad loss. Yes, it would be great to have a highbrow channel, but we don't always want highbrow channels for a bit of escapism and retro nostalgia. It wouldn't be the same.


I've watched BBC Four for escapism as much as I've watched Challenge for a bit of Bully.
ST
steveboswell Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
I do remember reading on another forum recently that there was space for another 24 hour stream on one of the MUX's, so perhaps this is where Sky Arts will fit in, meaning Pick and Challenge won't have to close at all?


If memory serves me correctly, COM5 has previously squeezed in 16 channels but is currently only carrying 15 (COM5 being the multiplex that Sky News, Challenge and Pick / Sky Pick / Sky Sports Pick are broadcast on).

COM6 definately has capacity as it is only carrying 14 channels at present.

So there is technical capacity for additional services, it just depends on whether Sky are willing to pay for it or if they think the business case is stronger for replacing an existing channel.
AN
all new Phil Recently warned Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Jonwo posted:
Pick will get priority over Challenge because it’s Sky’s shop window for its Pay TV services and sadly Challenge is an odd duck in Sky’s portfolio of channels, it’ll either close or they’ll sell it.

I’m not sure Sky think of it as a shop window any more. It’s not exactly a best-of channel and doesn’t carry much of Sky’s best stuff (they have a huge back catalogue of shows they could broadcast if they wished, just look at how much is available on demand on Now TV). It carries ads for Sky channels, sure, but so does Sky News.
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KU
Kunst World News
Pick obviously will survive, because it's their generic free TV channel
LL
Larry the Loafer Granada North West Today
It still surprises me how vulnerable Challenge has been for so long, considering it runs completely unopposed unlike a lot of other "niche" channels. It'd be sad to see it go from Freeview, but Sky Arts is probably the most worthy addition that the platform has seen in a very long time.
GO
gottago London London
Jonwo posted:
Pick will get priority over Challenge because it’s Sky’s shop window for its Pay TV services and sadly Challenge is an odd duck in Sky’s portfolio of channels, it’ll either close or they’ll sell it.

I’m not sure Sky think of it as a shop window any more. It’s not exactly a best-of channel and doesn’t carry much of Sky’s best stuff (they have a huge back catalogue of shows they could broadcast if they wished, just look at how much is available on demand on Now TV). It carries ads for Sky channels, sure, but so does Sky News.

Yes you're right, it's not a shop window these days, it's all about ad revenue now. Pick must be their only channel that has a constant linear audience - it pretty much hovers around 100k during the day and normally goes up to 200-300k in primetime which is more consistant than any of their pay channels. I wouldn't be surprised if they make more ad revenue from Pick than their individual pay entertainment channels now.
JO
Jonwo
From Sky's POV, a channel that is showcasing the arts and culture and attracts an upmarket audience is going to get more love and attention than a channel that shows old gameshows.
AN
all new Phil Recently warned Yorkshire Look North (Yorkshire)
Jonwo posted:
From Sky's POV, a channel that is showcasing the arts and culture and attracts an upmarket audience is going to get more love and attention than a channel that shows old gameshows.

Add to that they have recently bolstered their factual content for a similar audience (Docs and Nature, and potentially History if they reposition it slightly away from the Storage Wars type of show), it makes sense to use Arts to showcase their quality output. Would be good to see Pick morph into something that does similar with their drama and comedy output, but not sure if it is likely.
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