NT
Wasn't Whittle exactly the same format as Everybody''s Equal that had been on ITV and presented by Chris Tarrant?
IT
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2wdese
Clips from the Series from Gareth Marks' showreel
It is relatively rare for BSB material to exist - They produced so much original material during those few months on air (a HUGE AMOUNT really) - and is virtually all gone! NGTV and John Gau were primary producers of the programmes, and junked a lot, leading to Kaleidoscope's project to recover as much as possible.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2wdese
Clips from the Series from Gareth Marks' showreel
HC
Yes. But on a lesser scale.
Everybodys Equal had 100 players at the start. Pretty sure EE was also recorded one at a time with a different set of players in each.
Whittle either 50 or 75 players at the start - and was recorded in blocks, so you sometimes saw the same players in the final 10 on consecutive programmes.
Wasn't Whittle exactly the same format as Everybody''s Equal that had been on ITV and presented by Chris Tarrant?
Yes. But on a lesser scale.
Everybodys Equal had 100 players at the start. Pretty sure EE was also recorded one at a time with a different set of players in each.
Whittle either 50 or 75 players at the start - and was recorded in blocks, so you sometimes saw the same players in the final 10 on consecutive programmes.
JA
There seems to be a lot of conflicting stories about what does and what doesn't exist from BSB really, nobody seems to really know.
One thing that definately does exist and has actually been released on DVD is their soap Jupiter Moon, though I believe that was made by Central. I know Granada made a weekend magazine show for kids too, I presume that still exists.
One thing that definately does exist and has actually been released on DVD is their soap Jupiter Moon, though I believe that was made by Central. I know Granada made a weekend magazine show for kids too, I presume that still exists.
NT
BBC Two used to trot out 100 Greatest Sporting Moments as a ten minute filler at any point ( like they do with Coast now ).
Talking of ten minute fillers, there used to be a slot at about half six on a Sunday where BBC One used to show " informative " programmes relating to health / safety. Unfortunately two of them are Saville programmes ( Play It Safe / Mind How You Go ) but there were also another couple, That's The Limit, about drinking, presented by Derek Griffiths and Feeling Great! presented by Roy Castle. The latter was extended to half an hour I think and called Looking Good Feeling Great ( or similar ).
Talking of ten minute fillers, there used to be a slot at about half six on a Sunday where BBC One used to show " informative " programmes relating to health / safety. Unfortunately two of them are Saville programmes ( Play It Safe / Mind How You Go ) but there were also another couple, That's The Limit, about drinking, presented by Derek Griffiths and Feeling Great! presented by Roy Castle. The latter was extended to half an hour I think and called Looking Good Feeling Great ( or similar ).
NJ
It was made at Central studios, presumably Nottingham and because it was the brainchild of William Smethurst who had worked at Central previously on the original run of Crossroads in the last two years of its life. Whether he was actually full-blown employed by Central for the likes of Jupiter Moon I don't know.
Wikipedia suggests only a third of so of all the episodes were released in Region 2, but the entire lot was pushed out in Region 1 for those of you with multi-region DVD players or latterly the keystrokes to make Region 2 players region-free
Neil Jones
Founding member
One thing that definately does exist and has actually been released on DVD is their soap Jupiter Moon, though I believe that was made by Central.
It was made at Central studios, presumably Nottingham and because it was the brainchild of William Smethurst who had worked at Central previously on the original run of Crossroads in the last two years of its life. Whether he was actually full-blown employed by Central for the likes of Jupiter Moon I don't know.
Wikipedia suggests only a third of so of all the episodes were released in Region 2, but the entire lot was pushed out in Region 1 for those of you with multi-region DVD players or latterly the keystrokes to make Region 2 players region-free
VM
There’s a BBC produced filler that still appears on the UKTV channels when they need to make up time before the next programme starts, with TV bloopers. It’s quite old now as it’s in 4:3
BBC Two used to trot out 100 Greatest Sporting Moments as a ten minute filler at any point ( like they do with Coast now ).
Talking of ten minute fillers, there used to be a slot at about half six on a Sunday where BBC One used to show " informative " programmes relating to health / safety. Unfortunately two of them are Saville programmes ( Play It Safe / Mind How You Go ) but there were also another couple, That's The Limit, about drinking, presented by Derek Griffiths and Feeling Great! presented by Roy Castle. The latter was extended to half an hour I think and called Looking Good Feeling Great ( or similar ).
Talking of ten minute fillers, there used to be a slot at about half six on a Sunday where BBC One used to show " informative " programmes relating to health / safety. Unfortunately two of them are Saville programmes ( Play It Safe / Mind How You Go ) but there were also another couple, That's The Limit, about drinking, presented by Derek Griffiths and Feeling Great! presented by Roy Castle. The latter was extended to half an hour I think and called Looking Good Feeling Great ( or similar ).
There’s a BBC produced filler that still appears on the UKTV channels when they need to make up time before the next programme starts, with TV bloopers. It’s quite old now as it’s in 4:3
NT
There were two Liverpool based dramas which may have been written by Phil Redmond - Going Out and What Now? I can only vaguely remember them and both are rarely referenced. Anyone else remember?
IT
It was made at Central studios, presumably Nottingham and because it was the brainchild of William Smethurst who had worked at Central previously on the original run of Crossroads in the last two years of its life. Whether he was actually full-blown employed by Central for the likes of Jupiter Moon I don't know.
Studio 2 in Birmingham - formerly of Crossroads fame. The studio was extended specially for JM - which was made by an indie, Andromeda, but obviously using all of Central's technical knowhow. The show was VERY successful abroad, perhaps explaining its survival.
It was made at Central studios, presumably Nottingham and because it was the brainchild of William Smethurst who had worked at Central previously on the original run of Crossroads in the last two years of its life. Whether he was actually full-blown employed by Central for the likes of Jupiter Moon I don't know.
Studio 2 in Birmingham - formerly of Crossroads fame. The studio was extended specially for JM - which was made by an indie, Andromeda, but obviously using all of Central's technical knowhow. The show was VERY successful abroad, perhaps explaining its survival.
AN
Yes. But on a lesser scale.
Everybodys Equal had 100 players at the start. Pretty sure EE was also recorded one at a time with a different set of players in each.
Whittle either 50 or 75 players at the start - and was recorded in blocks, so you sometimes saw the same players in the final 10 on consecutive programmes.
I'm sure Whittle started with 100 players at the start.
Of course this was Channel 5 so the prize was only £250 with a jackpot of £500
Having said that, they did give away the £500 every day so probably not far behind the money given away on Pointless.
Andrew
Founding member
Wasn't Whittle exactly the same format as Everybody''s Equal that had been on ITV and presented by Chris Tarrant?
Yes. But on a lesser scale.
Everybodys Equal had 100 players at the start. Pretty sure EE was also recorded one at a time with a different set of players in each.
Whittle either 50 or 75 players at the start - and was recorded in blocks, so you sometimes saw the same players in the final 10 on consecutive programmes.
I'm sure Whittle started with 100 players at the start.
Of course this was Channel 5 so the prize was only £250 with a jackpot of £500
Having said that, they did give away the £500 every day so probably not far behind the money given away on Pointless.
SW
That slot carried on for ages, well into the nineties, it was usually at 6.15 on Sundays, and more or less stayed there until the God Slot was axed at the end of 1992 and Songs of Praise started shuffling around all over the place. There were lots of adult education series in that slot, there was one on numeracy called A Way With Numbers with Carol Vorderman, Weather Watch about meteorology and one about communication called OK2 Talk Feelings which I remember loads of people slagging off on Points of View for being totally unintelligible.
Actually while we're talking about the Sunday teatime slot, I remember watching this one-off in 1992, The Health Show.
http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1992-04-26#at-18.15
As you can see, it was a ninety minute special with Tel and Jakki Brambles which was a big studio-based extravaganza with guests and quizzes and bands, which I assumed was a pilot for a series but it never came back. I remember being absolutely amazed by at it at the time because, as you can see, it moved Songs of Praise and that was still the era when Songs of Praise had to be broadcast at 6.40 by law except in exceptional circumstances, which presumably this was. It's the only time I can remember it being moved for a non-sporting event.
This reminds me that there used to be a programme the Beeb used as a filler called Miss Takes...
http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?order=asc&q=%22miss+takes%22#search
These were ten minute compilations of out-takes from various sources (Auntie's Bloomers, Golden Egg Awards, Christmas tapes), some of which were very old and familiar and some I'd never seen before, and they were linked by John Pitman in front of a CSO backdrop. I remember they were copyright BBC International Sales or something in that style, presumably compiled expressly to showcase the archive to other broadcasters.
Talking of ten minute fillers, there used to be a slot at about half six on a Sunday where BBC One used to show " informative " programmes relating to health / safety. Unfortunately two of them are Saville programmes ( Play It Safe / Mind How You Go ) but there were also another couple, That's The Limit, about drinking, presented by Derek Griffiths and Feeling Great! presented by Roy Castle. The latter was extended to half an hour I think and called Looking Good Feeling Great ( or similar ).
That slot carried on for ages, well into the nineties, it was usually at 6.15 on Sundays, and more or less stayed there until the God Slot was axed at the end of 1992 and Songs of Praise started shuffling around all over the place. There were lots of adult education series in that slot, there was one on numeracy called A Way With Numbers with Carol Vorderman, Weather Watch about meteorology and one about communication called OK2 Talk Feelings which I remember loads of people slagging off on Points of View for being totally unintelligible.
Actually while we're talking about the Sunday teatime slot, I remember watching this one-off in 1992, The Health Show.
http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/bbcone/london/1992-04-26#at-18.15
As you can see, it was a ninety minute special with Tel and Jakki Brambles which was a big studio-based extravaganza with guests and quizzes and bands, which I assumed was a pilot for a series but it never came back. I remember being absolutely amazed by at it at the time because, as you can see, it moved Songs of Praise and that was still the era when Songs of Praise had to be broadcast at 6.40 by law except in exceptional circumstances, which presumably this was. It's the only time I can remember it being moved for a non-sporting event.
There’s a BBC produced filler that still appears on the UKTV channels when they need to make up time before the next programme starts, with TV bloopers. It’s quite old now as it’s in 4:3
This reminds me that there used to be a programme the Beeb used as a filler called Miss Takes...
http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/search/0/20?order=asc&q=%22miss+takes%22#search
These were ten minute compilations of out-takes from various sources (Auntie's Bloomers, Golden Egg Awards, Christmas tapes), some of which were very old and familiar and some I'd never seen before, and they were linked by John Pitman in front of a CSO backdrop. I remember they were copyright BBC International Sales or something in that style, presumably compiled expressly to showcase the archive to other broadcasters.
NJ
Whittle may have given away more than £500 daily - apparently if you got through to the final ten you'd get £10 for each correct answer you gave in that round. Make it to the end, win the jackpot and walk away with ultimately £540, I believe. The audience played on the jackpot question too and those who got it right when the player didn't could win a share of £250, typically anywhere from <crunch numbers> £2.52 upwards. Wow-wee!
Amazing to think how cheap very early Channel 5 was or had to be in the prize stakes, especially when the likes of Millionaire was on the horizon 18 months or so later.
Neil Jones
Founding member
I'm sure Whittle started with 100 players at the start.
Of course this was Channel 5 so the prize was only £250 with a jackpot of £500
Having said that, they did give away the £500 every day so probably not far behind the money given away on Pointless.
Of course this was Channel 5 so the prize was only £250 with a jackpot of £500
Having said that, they did give away the £500 every day so probably not far behind the money given away on Pointless.
Whittle may have given away more than £500 daily - apparently if you got through to the final ten you'd get £10 for each correct answer you gave in that round. Make it to the end, win the jackpot and walk away with ultimately £540, I believe. The audience played on the jackpot question too and those who got it right when the player didn't could win a share of £250, typically anywhere from <crunch numbers> £2.52 upwards. Wow-wee!
Amazing to think how cheap very early Channel 5 was or had to be in the prize stakes, especially when the likes of Millionaire was on the horizon 18 months or so later.