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Scrap BBC Three and Four - bring back Choice and Knowledge?

(January 2005)

JO
Johnny83 London London
Breakfast News posted:
Slightly OT, but i feel the same about Parliament, and to some extent N24. Why not show PMQ's on Parl. while N24 continues with normal news?

PMQ's is already on BBC TWO, AND Parliament - so there is no need for it on N24.


Why do they STILL have Parliment in that small screen surely they could have it full screen by now (it's been two years at least- well since I got my digi box) not that I watch it
MS
Mark Smith
BBC Parliament is in a small screen due to bandwidth limitations on Freeview. However this could be overcome by ditching one of the BBCi screens or the news multiscreens, but some people may prefer these to Parliament.

Crown Castle have just found space for a new channel on one of their muxes. There is no reason why the BBC couldn't do the same with their second mux, allowing a full screen Parliament without sacrificing anything they already have. But they may decide to extend the hours of BBC Four (if they don't need special permission for this from the government) and/or BBC Three over on their main mux.

Or we could just have another BBCi screen which won't be used most of the time, but I hope not.
NS
NickyS Founding member
Bewitched_Fan_2k posted:
Why excally can they not repeat BBC1&2 programes???

There are very stict limits on what BBC Three can and can't do ... these are the three key paragraphs on why you don't see many BBC One/Two repeats on the channel. The biggest being 80 per cent of programmes have to be specially commissioned for BBC Three - that excludes BBC One and Two repeats and with 90 per cent of programme hours being made in the EU for first showing in the UK - so basically you are talking about 10 per cent of the channel being either repeats or imports - that's not a lot and I'd like to see a commerical channel like E4 survive with those regulations ...

Commission 25% of the service's output from the independent sector, with no reduction in the contribution made by other BBC channels to the BBC's overall 25% independent production quota - and spend at least one quarter of the BBC Three programme budget on independent productions

Ensure that 90% of programme hours for the service are made in the EU/EEA for first showing in the UK, while also producing 33% of the channel's eligible budget from outside the M25 from 2004-5

Produce programming of a consistently innovative and risk-taking character, with 80% of the service's output consisting of programmes specially commissioned for BBC3 and genuinely new to television .

If you want to see all the condition attached to BBC Three by the DCMS there is a summary here from BBC News Online
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/tv_and_radio/2263541.stm
DU
Dunedin
BBC Three is the best non-terrestrial channel.

Period.

The most innovative and multi-award winning comedy.

Outstanding drama that's getting critical acclaim and pulling in the viewers on BBC Two.

Probably the best news bulletin that the BBC produces- yes that includes BBC One.

And it gets better week by week. Audience up 24% year on year, and yet some cry for a "channel of repeats".

It's tiresome- BBC Three is a channel in its own right, and it's doing a fantastic job.

Give it 5 years and PVRs/Video on Demand will be near universal....and then the BBC would be stuck with a "repeats channel". Channels like E4 will very soon (as if they aren't already) be utterly pointless. Leave BBC Three and Four be- they are beacons in the large dirth of multichannel TV.
GE
thegeek Founding member London London
Dunedin posted:
Probably the best news bulletin that the BBC produces- yes that includes BBC One.

I can't disagree with you there. But how often have you stayed on past the end of the news, only to see an edition of Body Hits that you've already seen three times already. They really need to sort out that slot, because I'm getting a bit fed up of it.
PE
Pete Founding member North Reporting Scotland
Dunedin posted:
BBC Three is the best non-terrestrial channel.

Period.


UURGGGHH, that's the second time I've read that "period" nonesense on here today. I demand it never be used again as it sounds stupid.

And so does "full stop" used in the same context befoer some smartarse pipes up.
DU
Dunedin
Hymagumba posted:
Dunedin posted:
BBC Three is the best non-terrestrial channel.

Period.


UURGGGHH, that's the second time I've read that "period" nonesense on here today. I demand it never be used again as it sounds stupid.

And so does "full stop" used in the same context befoer some smartarse pipes up.


No.

Stop having unhealthy obsessions about newsreaders. I demand you never do it again as it sounds stupid.

Dunedin 1 - 0 Hymagumba
TV
tvmercia Founding member
i know bbc 3 isnít completely targeted at the yoof market - but take a look in the pages of any of the recent lot of 20 something year old menís magazines and youíll find pages about electronic gizmos etc- so something like a daily 15 min version of click online would probably do very well.

i actually tuned in for "7 days" only to find it was dire. something like the 11 o'clock show, something that channel 4 donít seem interested in anymore would be fab.

and in vision continuity (not in the 1970s itv sense), more ... grown up T4 would also set the channel apart.
PE
Pete Founding member North Reporting Scotland
Dunedin posted:
Dunedin 1 - 0 Hymagumba


The fact you did not correct me on myspelling in that post shows how you may never comment on forum matters and should be banned.]

Dunedin 0 - 2 Hymagumba

BBC Three has a problem of seeming like a false channel now. Personally I think losing Liquid has made it lose the live show that could tie it together. One news bulletin a day can't do this.

I quite like Andy's idea about in-vision continuity too, although I would love early 1990s Tyne Tees style
AD
Adam London London
Hymagumba posted:

I quite like Andy's idea about in-vision continuity too, although I would love early 1990s Tyne Tees style


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"Now on BBC Three, time for Sex, Warts and All"

Image from ttlp.org.uk
PE
Pete Founding member North Reporting Scotland
exactly, and we'd have to have the Tyne Tees style propaganda trails with Pam boofing along corridors in bright green suits

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