Scottish Programmes (BBC) Transmitted UK Wide

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Spencer 2 July 2009 4:44pm

Would equality in programming including BBC Alba being axed, given that the rest of the UK doesn't have its own extra BBC channel?

At the moment, BBC Alba isn't actually an extra channel for Scotland - it's an extra channel for satellite. It's specific not to a region, but to a platform.

It's a channel aimed at Scottish viewers, with a large proportion of its output about Scotland, in a language spoken almost exclusively in Scotland. I'd call that a channel for Scotland.

Well the joke's on you Spencer.

Hardly anyone speaks it at all.

*Badum tish*

I'm not denying that! It just goes to show how pointless the channel is, and how the BBC is going out of its way to over-cater Scottish audiences, rather than discriminating against them.

MA

maiden666 2 July 2009 4:57pm

Why is it pointless? It aims to foster the growth of gaelic within Scotland. This is something which will probably be taught in our schools in the fairly near future. Depending on who is in power. As one of the UK's indiginous languages along with Welsh I think it's very important some the BBC's resources are allocated to this.
I'm not sure how much is spent on it, but probably not that much.

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Inspector Sands 2 July 2009 5:15pm

Hymagumba posted:

actually chie he's quoting barcode without using quote tags, hence the rather confusing post.

While we're at it I'd just like to point out that his second post was only one sentence long when I replied to it... the rest of the paragraph was added later

IS

Inspector Sands 2 July 2009 5:19pm

maiden666 posted:

Still 3% of budget versus 8% of population, still a deficit.

Mind you, how much is spent on *local* services for the BBC London area despite the fact that a fifth of the population live in that region?

NG

noggin Founding member 2 July 2009 5:48pm

Indeed - and how much is spent on the further chunk of the population outside London who are only able to receive BBC London News - and get precisely NO coverage of their local areas... When was the last time you saw them cover much outside the M25?

NG

noggin Founding member 2 July 2009 5:51pm

Aren't quite a lot of the weekend dramas - Monarch of the Glen and it's successors commissioned by BBC Scotland?

Also - quite a few of the Lottery Shows, The Kids are Alright and a few other entertainment shows come out of BBC Scotland, as do quite a few kids shows.

The One Show commissions a number of strands, and individual films, from BBC Scotland, BBC Northern Ireland, and BBC Wales, as well as from BBC Bristol and BBC Manchester as well as a number of indies in the nations and outside the M25. (It doesn't commission much from London - Science, Art and History mainly - and no indies from inside the M25)

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Steve in Pudsey 2 July 2009 6:22pm

Doesn't BBC Scotland operate on the same basis as the English Regions where there is also a National Production Centre (Bristol, Manchester, Birminghm), that there are two distinct operations.

BBC Scotland producing programmes to be shown locally within Scotland

BBC Productions Scotland, producing programmes to be shown on the network.

:-(

A former member 2 July 2009 6:30pm

Steve in Pudsey posted:

Doesn't BBC Scotland operate on the same basis as the English Regions where there is also a National Production Centre (Bristol, Manchester, Birminghm), that there are two distinct operations.

BBC Scotland producing programmes to be shown locally within Scotland

BBC Productions Scotland, producing programmes to be shown on the network.

You do know there still a lack of regional tv actully within scotland with most of the STV, BBC scotland out put coming form glasgow.

dundonians and aberdonians are not been happy,

SW

Steve Williams 2 July 2009 7:24pm

maiden666 posted:

Rab C Nesbitt is now a very old programme, so we're mainly talking repeats here, and again rarely in prime-time slots.

Rab C Nesbitt has just been recommissioned.

MA

maiden666 2 July 2009 7:30pm

It seems that raising this particular issue generally illicits an unsavoury response from some. To quote from one individual "Scots whingeing". Maybe us Scots as a "minority"should know our place a bit better. Nothing changes unless people raise the issue.

The BBC are in the process of increasing the output from Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland to around 17% of all programmes. This has resulted in some staff/presenters/crew having to re-locate to other parts of the country, including Manchester. In the long term it will mean a less centralized BBC, with more diversity, benefitting more.

DO

dosxuk 2 July 2009 9:00pm

Maiden666 - can you answer this question posed by Chie?

Chie posted:

The population of East Anglia is the same as Scotland, so do you reckon that 8% of programmes on the BBC (that's 14 hours per week) should be about the region of East Anglia?

NG

noggin Founding member 2 July 2009 10:55pm

Steve in Pudsey posted:

Doesn't BBC Scotland operate on the same basis as the English Regions where there is also a National Production Centre (Bristol, Manchester, Birminghm), that there are two distinct operations.

BBC Scotland producing programmes to be shown locally within Scotland

BBC Productions Scotland, producing programmes to be shown on the network.

Not quite as distinct as they once were as the Nations and Regions bit of the BBC (that would have handled the nations news divisions) has ceased to exist.

Now the news provision for England is part of BBC News, and the provision for Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland has been devolved to the nations themselves. I think that probably means that they are all managed by the nation now. They may be separate on-site but that is it.

Trying to separate the people who work on programmes just shown locally in the nation and those going to network is a pretty nonsensical exercise in these days of short-term contracts and freelance working. It isn't like there are hundreds of staff producers, researchers etc. just sitting in offices any more...

(July 2009)