PE
I'm sorry you're talking quite a lot of nonsense here.
Firstly, there are regional shows that are not intended nor would work on network. Examples being the Alba stuff, the Scottish politics / news shows and things such as Only a game which is very local in terms of humour and style.
When it comes to River City, yes it has a cult following in England, in part thanks to Scott Mills, but where exactly would they fit a second soap on primetime BBC1? You have to remember that one of the reasons for having a separate channel for Scotland is to allow for more programming in prime time that would otherwise not be shown due to the dominance (in terms of size population) of England.
Finally, there are no gameshows / entertainment from Scotland shown in England? What about Barroman's trashy saturday night thing? And yes there are some odd exceptions to the rule such as Waterloo Road but there is a significant number of shows made at Pacific Quay that get shown on Network, it is I believe, their second largest studio complex after TVC.
As for your constant bleating of the 3% / 6% / 8% thing. That's always a danger. Should x% of people on TV be black / gay/ have no legs simply because it reflects the population? There is of course an awful lot of Netowkr shows that appeal perfectly well to Scottish audiences. I doubt it would go down well if casualty, eastenders and what not were pulled just to have 24hr tartan.
As has been said, Scotland does rather well compared to non-London England which has to suffer patronising morons on talent shows treating any one from the north as if they're moronic "and he was only a plumber from wallsend" as if that makes him less likely to be able to sing than a plumber from London.
Pete
Founding member
Why do you say Scottish programmes are only relevent to Scots? I'm sure you must have some basis for that line of argument. Is a Scottish programme about Scottish History only relevent to Scottish viewers? Or River City any less worthy of UK wide transmission that Eastenders? The Scottish population accounts for over 8% of the UK population as a whole. The BBC only spends 3% of it's budget for new programmes is Scotland(admittedly this will be rising to 6% soon, so they tell us), but virtually nothing of what is made in Scotland is transmitted UK wide. Even a cursury glance at an average weeks listings reveals in many cases absolutely no programmes made in Scotland transmitted in England. The recent Neil Oliver programme on Scottish History was only only broadcast network-wide as a result of complaints. Otherwise it was only available in England in iPlayer or on BBC Alba which believe it or not not everyone has access to.
I'm sorry you're talking quite a lot of nonsense here.
Firstly, there are regional shows that are not intended nor would work on network. Examples being the Alba stuff, the Scottish politics / news shows and things such as Only a game which is very local in terms of humour and style.
When it comes to River City, yes it has a cult following in England, in part thanks to Scott Mills, but where exactly would they fit a second soap on primetime BBC1? You have to remember that one of the reasons for having a separate channel for Scotland is to allow for more programming in prime time that would otherwise not be shown due to the dominance (in terms of size population) of England.
Finally, there are no gameshows / entertainment from Scotland shown in England? What about Barroman's trashy saturday night thing? And yes there are some odd exceptions to the rule such as Waterloo Road but there is a significant number of shows made at Pacific Quay that get shown on Network, it is I believe, their second largest studio complex after TVC.
As for your constant bleating of the 3% / 6% / 8% thing. That's always a danger. Should x% of people on TV be black / gay/ have no legs simply because it reflects the population? There is of course an awful lot of Netowkr shows that appeal perfectly well to Scottish audiences. I doubt it would go down well if casualty, eastenders and what not were pulled just to have 24hr tartan.
As has been said, Scotland does rather well compared to non-London England which has to suffer patronising morons on talent shows treating any one from the north as if they're moronic "and he was only a plumber from wallsend" as if that makes him less likely to be able to sing than a plumber from London.
CH
So first you complain that I'm too insular and don't want to know about Scotland, but then you go on to admit that you don't particularly care for England yourself!
If you're not bothered about England then surely you can easily understand why some English aren't that bothered about Scotland?
But why so people in Kent and cornwall or yorkshire care about scottish programmes? I don't want to see them any more than there want to see my programmes like chewin the fat.
I don't want to see Chewin the Fat either!
I don't want to see Chewin the Fat either!
So first you complain that I'm too insular and don't want to know about Scotland, but then you go on to admit that you don't particularly care for England yourself!
If you're not bothered about England then surely you can easily understand why some English aren't that bothered about Scotland?
MA
Did I do it correctly this time? Got your message although i seem to be unable to reply to you.
Cheers for that.
All these buttons, so confusing!
actually chie he's quoting barcode without using quote tags, hence the rather confusing post.
Did I do it correctly this time? Got your message although i seem to be unable to reply to you.
Cheers for that.
All these buttons, so confusing!
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MA
I think the important this is that we have equal exposure to each others culture, especially through History programmes, drama productions, and obviously arts events from every corner of the UK. The main medium in this country by which this can be done is through the BBC, which we all pay for.
:-(
A former member
I think the important this is that we have equal exposure to each others culture, especially through History programmes, drama productions, and obviously arts events from every corner of the UK. The main medium in this country by which this can be done is through the BBC, which we all pay for.
there don't even do this in the school, what chance do you have with TV!
SP
At the moment, BBC Alba isn't actually an extra channel for Scotland - it's an extra channel for satellite. It's specific not to a region, but to a platform.
It's a channel aimed at Scottish viewers, with a large proportion of its output about Scotland, in a language spoken almost exclusively in Scotland. I'd call that a channel for Scotland.
Would equality in programming including BBC Alba being axed, given that the rest of the UK doesn't have its own extra BBC channel?
At the moment, BBC Alba isn't actually an extra channel for Scotland - it's an extra channel for satellite. It's specific not to a region, but to a platform.
It's a channel aimed at Scottish viewers, with a large proportion of its output about Scotland, in a language spoken almost exclusively in Scotland. I'd call that a channel for Scotland.
GS
At the moment, BBC Alba isn't actually an extra channel for Scotland - it's an extra channel for satellite. It's specific not to a region, but to a platform.
It's a channel aimed at Scottish viewers, with a large proportion of its output about Scotland, in a language spoken almost exclusively in Scotland. I'd call that a channel for Scotland.
Well the joke's on you Spencer.
Hardly anyone speaks it at all.
*Badum tish*
Gavin Scott
Founding member
Would equality in programming including BBC Alba being axed, given that the rest of the UK doesn't have its own extra BBC channel?
At the moment, BBC Alba isn't actually an extra channel for Scotland - it's an extra channel for satellite. It's specific not to a region, but to a platform.
It's a channel aimed at Scottish viewers, with a large proportion of its output about Scotland, in a language spoken almost exclusively in Scotland. I'd call that a channel for Scotland.
Well the joke's on you Spencer.
Hardly anyone speaks it at all.
*Badum tish*