IF Scotland have the same law, education system as England maybe I could see some peoples points. BUT Scotland doesn't, Scotland has its own education system, its own law which is different to English law and there are few other differences aswell.
Bring this back on topic, this thread has morphed into regionalism TV will have to follow this path, but im not sure how.
The difference is Cornwall is now recognised as a National minority. Should this happen in the future to other areas, I believe there would be more debate then about opt-outs etc. I see Broadcasting as a (small) part of the devolution debate, I believe Culture comes under Scottish and Welsh powers already?
I think you're mistaking Cornwall - the geographical area, with the Cornish ethnic group - a minority group even in Cornwall, who have been granted the status of a national minority. Cornwall itself has no special allowances.
The idea of Cornwall going off on it's own is complete fantasy.
Though some are seeing it as the start towards a journey towards a Cornish National Assembly. Therefore one day an opt-out might just become reality.
I wonder if people might have laughed at the thought of a National Assembly in Wales a few decades ago. When it comes to Scotland however they have always seen themselves as separate though. That's why I can't believe in 2014 there's still a Border News service (from Gateshead?!), instead of allowing people in Southern Scotland the right to watch the same Political programming (with opt-outs/bulletins when it comes to News) as the rest of the Nation. In this time I believe it would help a little in bringing Scotland together again.
IF Scotland have the same law, education system as England maybe I could see some peoples points. BUT Scotland doesn't, Scotland has its own education system, its own law which is different to English law and there are few other differences aswell.
All 50 US states have their own laws and educations systems, as do Canadian provinces, Swiss Cantons...
They're all equal with exactly the same status too. Everyone in the UK should be equal as well, regardless where they live.
Last edited by Mr Kite on 28 September 2014 11:54pm
^^ Sorry but no. If Cornwall deserves a 'national assembly' then pretty much every locality does, so far as I'm concerned..
I agree 100% with you! To be fair many places did have a sort of national assembly' ie metropolitan councils which held huge power over many aspects of local government.
Of course Would ITV or even the BBC be able to provide such television services?
Doesn't mean it couldn't be done, but it wouldn't be neat, but then, you couldn't exactly say that Wales is very neat either through terrestrial transmitters, or Scotland for that matter. Transmitter signals are no respecters of borders.
^^ Sorry but no. If Cornwall deserves a 'national assembly' then pretty much every locality does, so far as I'm concerned.
Really? You obviously don't realise that Cornwall has more connection to Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittainy in France and even Gaelicia in Spain, than it does to Anglo-Saxon England, because we're Celts as well. Cornwall is the remains of the Celtic Kingdom of Dumnonia, which pre-dated England as a Kingdom by many many years. At one time, Dumnonia stretched across what is now Cornwall, Devon, and western parts of Somerset and Dorset. So, no, your argument doesn't apply, because the other Celtic Nations already have devolution of not just Government, but to a degree, media as well.
Of course you could have googled all this, it's pretty easy to find.
Quote:
All 50 US states have their own laws and educations systems, as do Canadian provinces, Swiss Cantons...
They're all equal with exactly the same status too. Everyone in the UK should be equal as well, regardless where they live.
That's rubbish. There's always been cases of some being more equal than others, so don't try and pretend that everybody's equal, cos that is complete and utter nonsense. It's like David Cameron saying we're all in this recession together, and the top 10% saw their wealth increase whilst the bottom 90% saw their wealth decrease during the recession.
In media terms that's like saying every TV channel is exactly the same, despite the difference in budgets, which can range from £1mlln to £1blln. That tends to be reflected in just how many viewers they get. Not everything is equal.
^^ Sorry but no. If Cornwall deserves a 'national assembly' then pretty much every locality does, so far as I'm concerned.
Really? You obviously don't realise that Cornwall has more connection to Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittainy in France and even Gaelicia in Spain, than it does to Anglo-Saxon England, because we're Celts as well.
Cornwall really doesn't have more connection to the likes to Brittany than it does to Devon or 'Anglo-Saxon England', whatever that is. You're a fantasist if you believe that.
Not sure what your rant about David Cameron and equality has to do with anything but never mind,
^^ Sorry but no. If Cornwall deserves a 'national assembly' then pretty much every locality does, so far as I'm concerned.
Really? You obviously don't realise that Cornwall has more connection to Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittainy in France and even Gaelicia in Spain, than it does to Anglo-Saxon England, because we're Celts as well.
Cornwall really doesn't have more connection to the likes to Brittany than it does to Devon or 'Anglo-Saxon England', whatever that is. You're a fantasist if you believe that.
Try reading this. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celtic_nations. You might actually learn something about us Cornish. Also, this site http://www.celticleague.net/ will help you understand why Cornwall is more connected to Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittainy etc... than it is to England. It's the same heritage the same culture, the same racial history. Oh, and Anglo Saxon is most of England's heritage and history, since the demise of the Roman Empire. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_settlement_of_Britain Seriously, the google is your friend.
What backs up your opinion, other than leaps of logic, which as the Second Doctor used to say, "Logic... merely enables one to be wrong with authority."
^^ Sorry but no. If Cornwall deserves a 'national assembly' then pretty much every locality does, so far as I'm concerned.
Really? You obviously don't realise that Cornwall has more connection to Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittainy in France and even Gaelicia in Spain, than it does to Anglo-Saxon England, because we're Celts as well.
Considering that the Atlantic Celts were an 18th Century invention based on little to no evidence of their existence, I don't think it's something one could build a nation upon.
Still, it would be interesting to see the Cornish-language channel, seeing as only 500 people speak it as their main language (only 20 people spoke it in 2000 when it was revived).
Considering that the Atlantic Celts were an 18th Century invention based on little to no evidence of their existence, I don't think it's something one could build a nation upon.
Still, it would be interesting to see the Cornish-language channel, seeing as only 500 people speak it as their main language (only 20 people spoke it in 2000 when it was revived).
Dohajdydh da....
It's a sort of chicken-and-egg situation isn't it? If you build it, they will come. But you need someone to build it first.
Incidentally, the revivalist movement is considered to have started in 1904. It is true however that since the advent of the Internet, there have been greater strides in both awareness and usage. Several Facebook groups exist, there is a Kernewek Wikipedia page, and most important of all there are online resources such as those run by MAGA and Kesva an Taves Kernewek. Latest estimations show about 2000 people have some knowledge of the language (2001 if you count me!)
^^ Sorry but no. If Cornwall deserves a 'national assembly' then pretty much every locality does, so far as I'm concerned.
Really? You obviously don't realise that Cornwall has more connection to Wales, Scotland, Ireland, Brittainy in France and even Gaelicia in Spain, than it does to Anglo-Saxon England, because we're Celts as well.
Considering that the Atlantic Celts were an 18th Century invention based on little to no evidence of their existence, I don't think it's something one could build a nation upon.
The term "Celtic" and associated terms to it, may have been 18th century inventions, but the Kingdom of Dumnonia that I refered to, predates that term by over a thousand years, and language changes all the time, so I wouldn't put too much stock in the fact the term is more modern than what it is talking about. The history is there, and to be honest, it's not surprising that the idea of denegrating other forms of history that do not match their own, could have happened back then. Human beings are notorious for ignoring things that don't match their pre-concieved views.
Quote:
Still, it would be interesting to see the Cornish-language channel, seeing as only 500 people speak it as their main language (only 20 people spoke it in 2000 when it was revived).
There currently isn't a single TV programme that is broadcast in the Cornish language on any kind of regular basis, not even monthly. However, radio does much better there, with BBC Radio Cornwall's weekly 5 minute news review on Sundays at 5pm, and an hour long programme called Radyo An Gernewegva, which broadcasts on Penwith Radio, The Source FM, The Hub Radio and Radio St Austell Bay. The programme is also available for download as a podcast.
Is a TV programme in the Cornish language a possibility? Yes, but it would probably have to have dual language on screen subtitles to help with learning Cornish. And probably the first series would have to introduce newcomers to the language and teach it to some degree. But I would still say that such a programme probably won't exist in the immediate future, though 5-10 years down the road, it could happen.
A Cornish language TV channel, is maybe 10 years+ away.