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MA
Markymark
Old school game consoles (the ones that only output as UHF) would need a preset. VHS recorders (before they adopted SCART as a standard needed a present, some TVs had Channel 0 "specifically" for this (God only knows why)

A lot of TVs had a preset that was especially for video recorders and the like. We had a Philips where it was channel 0, I remember seeing older push button tuner Philips with a tape symbol on one button. It was similar to how some amps had one input that was meant to be used for record players


There was a difference, presumably something to do with the sensitivity/selectivity of the tuning on that preset. If we used our video on 0 it worked every time, if we tuned it into another, for example 8 it wouldn't lock onto it that well and when we tuned away and back to 8 it would be slightly off tune. I'm sure someone will know the precise reason


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I'm sure the "99 channels" thing was just a gimmick, presumably because unless the TV supported multi-standards (PAL, SECAM and whatever the other European standard was) and you were stupid enough to lug it around on holiday with you (why anybody would carry a bulky TV like that on a plane or a boat is beyond me), it would be underused.

TVs in some parts of the world had tuners that could use the cable band too, you'd soon fill up 100 channels with that, UHF and VHF


I had an old portable colour TV with 8 presets which lasted for years, I was quite proud that it's last home (a flat I rented) I managed to fill all 8... I gave it a good send off

I think that the VCR tuning may have had more tolerance of unstable timing compared to broadcast signals, which were kept within very tight specs. VCRs with the tape mechanism couldn't match that.

I'm trying to remember when other UHF sources appeared - domestic video recorders must have been mid 1970s?
Then there were the bat and ball games - late 1970s (ours was black and white - next door managed to get a colour one!)


That’s my understanding. The use of 8 or 0 was because that preset loosened up the flywheel sync circuitry, which meant a more stable picture when playing back a tape. Of course you could still use the preset for a proper broadcast channel, but I seem to recall you’d get a bit of jitter doing so
IS
Inspector Sands

8 presets, what did you fill them with?

Nothing special, I had an old Ondigital box and a video recorder in the room and i put a load of coax in from the lounge where I had a Sky box.

Was odd having working video on every button
MA
Markymark
6 push buttons!
You'd never need that many.....


Better than all the TVs that have 99 presets when there's only channels 21-69 in tuning range anyway! So not even possible to tune in 99 different channels, or anywhere close.


No, but remember the tuner control was probably worldwide generic, and in some areas ( North America notably) punters probably liked to have stations on their VHF or UHF frequency as the preset number. For instance WNAK Ch 29.
I think US UHF allocations go up into the 70s ( because the channel bandwidth is less than Europe’s) ??
CL
Closedown
Dredging through what passes for my memory, I came up with Ragtime. First thing on Saturday mornings, BBC1 1976, per the genome, which makes it among my earliest tv memories of all - I'd have been five or six.



Odd presentation-related memory - for years - well into the 80s I think - those Saturday and Sunday startups on 1 were a good chance to spot a menu with the /B/B/C/1/ lozenge logo at the foot, complete with 'full details in Radio Times'

Another Saturday favourite, from the following year, London Weekend's Fun Food Factory.

NG
noggin Founding member

That’s my understanding. The use of 8 or 0 was because that preset loosened up the flywheel sync circuitry, which meant a more stable picture when playing back a tape. Of course you could still use the preset for a proper broadcast channel, but I seem to recall you’d get a bit of jitter doing so


I had totally forgotten about that - but yes, you're right. Some TVs dedicated a specific 'channel' number for VCRs for that reason.
JA
JAS84
Also, people have mentioned the Disney Club, but nobody's mentioned Diggit, which I think originally span off from it (I think they ran alongside each other for a few months?). One of the earliest TV jobs of Fearne Cotton. I think it only originally ran on Saturdays, but it later ran on Sunday too.
Diggit was mentioned in the thread's first post!
FA
fanoftv
Also, people have mentioned the Disney Club, but nobody's mentioned Diggit, which I think originally span off from it (I think they ran alongside each other for a few months?). One of the earliest TV jobs of Fearne Cotton. I think it only originally ran on Saturdays, but it later ran on Sunday too.


Diggit began in early 1998. It was live on Saturdays (from 7:10) replacing ‘wake up in the wildroom’ and recorded on Sundays (from 8:00) replacing ‘Roadhog’. Des (Paul Ballard) and Fearne Cotton both came from Disney Club with Fearne winning the search for a new presenter. Des was also part of Roadhog. As Diggit was the first live programme for both Des & Fearne the first month or so were hosted by Gail Porter as they found their feet.
BL
bluecortina
Old school game consoles (the ones that only output as UHF) would need a preset. VHS recorders (before they adopted SCART as a standard needed a present, some TVs had Channel 0 "specifically" for this (God only knows why)

A lot of TVs had a preset that was especially for video recorders and the like. We had a Philips where it was channel 0, I remember seeing older push button tuner Philips with a tape symbol on one button. It was similar to how some amps had one input that was meant to be used for record players


There was a difference, presumably something to do with the sensitivity/selectivity of the tuning on that preset. If we used our video on 0 it worked every time, if we tuned it into another, for example 8 it wouldn't lock onto it that well and when we tuned away and back to 8 it would be slightly off tune. I'm sure someone will know the precise reason


Quote:
I'm sure the "99 channels" thing was just a gimmick, presumably because unless the TV supported multi-standards (PAL, SECAM and whatever the other European standard was) and you were stupid enough to lug it around on holiday with you (why anybody would carry a bulky TV like that on a plane or a boat is beyond me), it would be underused.

TVs in some parts of the world had tuners that could use the cable band too, you'd soon fill up 100 channels with that, UHF and VHF


I had an old portable colour TV with 8 presets which lasted for years, I was quite proud that it's last home (a flat I rented) I managed to fill all 8... I gave it a good send off



It was usual, in that period of tv development and the widespread introduction of consoles and video recorders, for the timebase circuity of a telly to be made softer or ‘lazier’ for one channel (only) to enable the telly to follow and remain locked to the somewhat lower spec of the stability of the syncs on the output of such devices. Very common practice at the time - just for one channel or av input.
Closedown and Inspector Sands gave kudos
DJ
DJ Dave
Also, people have mentioned the Disney Club, but nobody's mentioned Diggit, which I think originally span off from it (I think they ran alongside each other for a few months?). One of the earliest TV jobs of Fearne Cotton. I think it only originally ran on Saturdays, but it later ran on Sunday too.


Diggit began in early 1998. It was live on Saturdays (from 7:10) replacing ‘wake up in the wildroom’ and recorded on Sundays (from 8:00) replacing ‘Roadhog’. Des (Paul Ballard) and Fearne Cotton both came from Disney Club with Fearne winning the search for a new presenter. Des was also part of Roadhog. As Diggit was the first live programme for both Des & Fearne the first month or so were hosted by Gail Porter as they found their feet.

Which later became "diggin it".
JA
james-2001
Diggin It was pretty much a day zero relaunch, with a new set and presenters.

I wonder what happened to Des (or Paul as he's really known)? Doesn't seem to have been anywhere since he left diggit in 2002. Reggie Yates (or Robbie as they called him there- keeping on the "character" names from the Disney Club) presented Diggit occasionally too, and he was pretty much inseperable from Fearne Cotton on TV during the 00s.
WH
Whataday Founding member
A few years back Fearne was asked about Des and she said he'd gone "missing" and hadn't been in touch for a while.
LO
loydy
SM:TV was my proper foray into Saturday morning TV. I watched it every week and had pretty much all of the merchandise released! I was sad when it finished, but really enjoyed Ministry of Mayhem when that started and think it did well to to mix some of what SM:TV was with a show like Tiswas. I feel like it's what Saturday Mash-Up is similar too now.

Here's a great sketch from SM:TV

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