PE
I know, isn't it wonderful getting News from such an authorative figure.
They keep using the widescreen plasmas wrong and were at the start of the war aswell, it's a disgrace. Talking of which, when are they going to fix those cameras? I'm sick of watching the desk change colour.
Pete
Founding member
tvmercia posted:
am i right in thinking our moira was the first person to break the news "unconfirmed reports" at the time) on terrestrial telly?
I know, isn't it wonderful getting News from such an authorative figure.
They keep using the widescreen plasmas wrong and were at the start of the war aswell, it's a disgrace. Talking of which, when are they going to fix those cameras? I'm sick of watching the desk change colour.
BR
That's a News 24 relaunch thread and has nothing to do with the breaking news of Saddam's capture, which covers all channels and is a story in itself. It's comments like that which are slowly ruining this forum IMHO.
Back on topic, ITV were outstanding once again IMO. They had their main presenters, continuous coverage as the story broke and live coverage of Tony Blair's reaction. The ITV News Special graphics were a bit dodgy though, but nice of Trevor to come in on a Sunday.
BBC's terrestrial coverage was patchy IMO, especially on BBC1. The breaking story was hidden away on BBC2, with irregular bulletins at odd times during the afternoon - and once again the BBC failed to bring in their main presenters until the scheduled bulletin. Apart from a short News 24 simulcast at 1pm, BBC1's only other extended reaction was an extended 10pm news.
(PS: Why do they always schedule Sports Personality of the Year in a 2 hour slot when it always runs over?)
Jakarta posted:
Sorry Rod, but this is already being discussed in http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7777&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=996
That's a News 24 relaunch thread and has nothing to do with the breaking news of Saddam's capture, which covers all channels and is a story in itself. It's comments like that which are slowly ruining this forum IMHO.
Back on topic, ITV were outstanding once again IMO. They had their main presenters, continuous coverage as the story broke and live coverage of Tony Blair's reaction. The ITV News Special graphics were a bit dodgy though, but nice of Trevor to come in on a Sunday.
BBC's terrestrial coverage was patchy IMO, especially on BBC1. The breaking story was hidden away on BBC2, with irregular bulletins at odd times during the afternoon - and once again the BBC failed to bring in their main presenters until the scheduled bulletin. Apart from a short News 24 simulcast at 1pm, BBC1's only other extended reaction was an extended 10pm news.
(PS: Why do they always schedule Sports Personality of the Year in a 2 hour slot when it always runs over?)
IN
That's a News 24 relaunch thread and has nothing to do with the breaking news of Saddam's capture, which covers all channels and is a story in itself. It's comments like that which are slowly ruining this forum IMHO.
Back on topic, ITV were outstanding once again IMO. They had their main presenters, continuous coverage as the story broke and live coverage of Tony Blair's reaction. The ITV News Special graphics were a bit dodgy though, but nice of Trevor to come in on a Sunday.
BBC's terrestrial coverage was patchy IMO, especially on BBC1. The breaking story was hidden away on BBC2, with irregular bulletins at odd times during the afternoon - and once again the BBC failed to bring in their main presenters until the scheduled bulletin. Apart from a short News 24 simulcast at 1pm, BBC1's only other extended reaction was an extended 10pm news.
(PS: Why do they always schedule Sports Personality of the Year in a 2 hour slot when it always runs over?)
No no, it is people like you who are always so predictable and obvious, and having a good old moan about anything to do with the BBC that is ruining this forum. Constructive criticism and comments put in a respectable way are good, always having a quick pop at the Beeb is not.
BBC1 did bring in some of their main presenters, Gavin Esler came in for a News 24/Newsnight hybrid programme on BBC Two, Huw Edwards came in for the extended Ten O Clock News when it was Jane Hill who was down to do it.
Why bother bringing in mainstream programme presenters for the initial coverage, when the presenters already on are perfectly competent to present the programme? It is the policy that if BBC1 or BBC2 switch to a News 24 simulcast, the on-duty BBC1 presenter joins the on-air News 24 presenter (or replaces one if they are already double-headed). Perfectly fine and works, Susannah Reid, Jane Hill (doing BBC1 on Sunday) and Phil Hayton were very good.
As for the irregular placement of the News 24 simulcasts, notice that on BBC2 that day was Sunday Grandstand, and some live coverage of swimming and other sport I think, bit of a waste of money and resources not to show that, eh? On BBC1, the EastEnders omnibus was on, and loads of pissed off people would have contacted the BBC complaining it had been dropped. The BBC can't win in situations like this.
Brekkie Boy posted:
Jakarta posted:
Sorry Rod, but this is already being discussed in http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7777&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=996
That's a News 24 relaunch thread and has nothing to do with the breaking news of Saddam's capture, which covers all channels and is a story in itself. It's comments like that which are slowly ruining this forum IMHO.
Back on topic, ITV were outstanding once again IMO. They had their main presenters, continuous coverage as the story broke and live coverage of Tony Blair's reaction. The ITV News Special graphics were a bit dodgy though, but nice of Trevor to come in on a Sunday.
BBC's terrestrial coverage was patchy IMO, especially on BBC1. The breaking story was hidden away on BBC2, with irregular bulletins at odd times during the afternoon - and once again the BBC failed to bring in their main presenters until the scheduled bulletin. Apart from a short News 24 simulcast at 1pm, BBC1's only other extended reaction was an extended 10pm news.
(PS: Why do they always schedule Sports Personality of the Year in a 2 hour slot when it always runs over?)
No no, it is people like you who are always so predictable and obvious, and having a good old moan about anything to do with the BBC that is ruining this forum. Constructive criticism and comments put in a respectable way are good, always having a quick pop at the Beeb is not.
BBC1 did bring in some of their main presenters, Gavin Esler came in for a News 24/Newsnight hybrid programme on BBC Two, Huw Edwards came in for the extended Ten O Clock News when it was Jane Hill who was down to do it.
Why bother bringing in mainstream programme presenters for the initial coverage, when the presenters already on are perfectly competent to present the programme? It is the policy that if BBC1 or BBC2 switch to a News 24 simulcast, the on-duty BBC1 presenter joins the on-air News 24 presenter (or replaces one if they are already double-headed). Perfectly fine and works, Susannah Reid, Jane Hill (doing BBC1 on Sunday) and Phil Hayton were very good.
As for the irregular placement of the News 24 simulcasts, notice that on BBC2 that day was Sunday Grandstand, and some live coverage of swimming and other sport I think, bit of a waste of money and resources not to show that, eh? On BBC1, the EastEnders omnibus was on, and loads of pissed off people would have contacted the BBC complaining it had been dropped. The BBC can't win in situations like this.
JA
Also in this article they say that Jane presented a BBC2 News Special with Gavin Esler but then in the next sentence says that she presented with Philip Hayton and then Gavin Hewett. 
DJ
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The article is great! Of Huw Edwards they made "Huw Davies".
Quote:
The BBC brought in the Ten O'Clock News presenter, Huw Davies, to anchor BBC1's early and late evening bulletins.
The article is great! Of Huw Edwards they made "Huw Davies".
LO
Here's Nick's column from The Times:
www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-936655,00.html
Media Monkey posted:
ITV News was this week boasting to anyone who would listen that its news correspondent Julian Manyon was the first British journalist in Tikrit on Sunday after the capture of Saddam Hussein. What they forgot to mention was that Manyon's hard-won film never actually saw the light of day, as his colleague Nick Robinson rather uncharitably reveals in his Times column today. Having bravely battled his way to the site of Saddam's arrest and back through street protests and blockades, ITV's intrepid reporter fell victim to that most basic of errors - the dodgy tape. As news editors in London eagerly awaited his dramatic images of a day that changed the world, they got... nothing. Viewers had to make do with a still of Manyon's mug instead as he delivered his two-way report.
Here's Nick's column from The Times:
www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,174-936655,00.html
Quote:
ONE CAUSE FOR cautious optimism was the capture of Saddam. On hearing the news, I dashed to Downing Street. It was a time to marvel at the technology which allowed our White House correspondent and our man on the road to Tikrit to bring the news live. But I soon realised that I had missed the most dramatic moment: the iconic shot of a bedraggled Saddam. Technology again came to the rescue. I called up the picture on my Palm pilot (connected to the internet via mobile phone) and handed it round a growing band of expectant journalists. Extraordinary.
HOURS LATER, ITV News’s Julian Manyon made it to the site of Saddam’s arrest: the first British television reporter to do so. Others had not wanted to leave their Bagdhad satellite dishes to make the treacherous journey. Manyon got his scoop on tape before hurtling back to transmit it. On the way he had to battle through street protests, road blocks and who knows what other delights the Sunni Triangle has to offer.
Back in the Iraqi capital, adrenalin still pumping, he pressed the button to play to London his first-hand account of a day that changed the world. An expectant newsroom came to a standstill. They saw nothing. They never did. The tape had broken. So much for technology. A tale to remember this Christmas as you curse your video for failing to record that favourite film.
HOURS LATER, ITV News’s Julian Manyon made it to the site of Saddam’s arrest: the first British television reporter to do so. Others had not wanted to leave their Bagdhad satellite dishes to make the treacherous journey. Manyon got his scoop on tape before hurtling back to transmit it. On the way he had to battle through street protests, road blocks and who knows what other delights the Sunni Triangle has to offer.
Back in the Iraqi capital, adrenalin still pumping, he pressed the button to play to London his first-hand account of a day that changed the world. An expectant newsroom came to a standstill. They saw nothing. They never did. The tape had broken. So much for technology. A tale to remember this Christmas as you curse your video for failing to record that favourite film.
MD
Methinks you are perhaps ignorant (strong word, I appreciate) of how other cultures respond to events.
These are Iraqi people who have been subjugated by 30 years of Saddam's regime. I was immensely surprised and heartened by the American Sanchez' way in which he handled their understandable outburst of joy/relief by letting them procede without interruption.
Just because the British have a 'stiff upper lip' doesn't make us any better in these situations.
Good on you Andrew! I personally was touched by the Iraqi journalists' response. It was one of those instances when you could almost feel the Iraq War to be justified.
Andrew Wood posted:
BBC TV Centre posted:
I did notice from the pictures that some of the journo's towards the front of the conference were getting a bit rowdy. Surely this is a press conference, not some place to celebrate the official "fall" of Saddam?
Methinks you are perhaps ignorant (strong word, I appreciate) of how other cultures respond to events.
These are Iraqi people who have been subjugated by 30 years of Saddam's regime. I was immensely surprised and heartened by the American Sanchez' way in which he handled their understandable outburst of joy/relief by letting them procede without interruption.
Just because the British have a 'stiff upper lip' doesn't make us any better in these situations.
Good on you Andrew! I personally was touched by the Iraqi journalists' response. It was one of those instances when you could almost feel the Iraq War to be justified.