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LO
Londoner
James Hatts posted:
What's this Trevor McDonald report ITV NC is playing now?

Is it an old 'Tonight' or a library obit/profile piece that's been waiting for his capture/death?


They're playing this again on the special

It has old-style astons on it which don't line up with the NC DOG (indeed you can see the ITV News logo in the gap between the DOG and clock)
SE
Square Eyes Founding member
I know it's an important story and all that, but is it really worth taking Creature Comforts off air ? I'm gutted Laughing

ITV News Special at 7.20pm with John Suchet, only for ten minutes mind, Saddam is not as important as Corrie. (Good coverage by the way)
HA
harshy Founding member
BBC Worl always tends to be better with the graphics and music stuff, interesting things I noticed though World's aston is bigger then News 24's, as News 24's aston did not match up to the height of the World's animated DOG, and BBC News 24 should have made better use of the ticker, BBC World I thought did a very good job with the ticker when the news was breaking, why BBC News 24 didn't use their ticker is very odd indeed, it could have been used to round up the comments made so far, and keep us updated with oncoming events and other news.
LO
Londoner
Now ITV NC has brought in Leyla Daybelge instead of Lloyd Bracey
PE
Pete Founding member
Oooh - I do like that music, the bit in the middle is very good.

I have to say I've been a bit disappointed over the weekend, for a start they let Boris, sorry, Simmons back on the set instead of taking him round the back and shooting him and then all the graphics go to hell. Are they on a skeleton crew at weeekends or something? Not good.
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A former member
James Hatts posted:
James Hatts posted:
What's this Trevor McDonald report ITV NC is playing now?

Is it an old 'Tonight' or a library obit/profile piece that's been waiting for his capture/death?


They're playing this again on the special

It has old-style astons on it which don't line up with the NC DOG (indeed you can see the ITV News logo in the gap between the DOG and clock)


I assume it's something Trevor knocked up before he came on air. Now that Trevor has spent today presenting for 40 minutes, we probably won't see him until February, but I am glad he did come in along with Leyla and Mark. Also well done to Steve Scott who had to handle all the breaking news this morning; he deserves recognition two as he's not as experienced as people like Trevor believe it or not.

Shame Creature Comforts was axed tonight, but it probably only means a week extra after it was due to finish fingers crossed. Don't really care what BBC2 had to take out, probably something crap. Also Channel 4 News managed to get through an hour long special with Jon Snow without Jonathan Rugman and a correspondent in Baghdad; they had lots of interviews plus Julian Rush in Washington and Gary Gibbon reporting from Downing Street, as well as Alex T and Sarah Smith reporting from what they'd been told. That meant that some show is now being shown on January 2nd. No idea what five did, probably the ITN cleaner reporting from what Itv have told him. Lost track of their weekend schedules.

On ITV, very pleased to see Bill Neely, Nick Robinson, John Ray, Julian Manyon and Robert Moore in snow all reporting and appearing Live tonight, after that it was easy to predict that James Mates would appear at some point, which he did. Them and Trevor make the BBC's coverage look like five news.
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A former member
BBC TV Centre posted:
I did notice from the pictures that some of the journo's towards the front of the conference were getting a bit rowdy. Surely this is a press conference, not some place to celebrate the official "fall" of Saddam?


Methinks you are perhaps ignorant (strong word, I appreciate) of how other cultures respond to events.

These are Iraqi people who have been subjugated by 30 years of Saddam's regime. I was immensely surprised and heartened by the American Sanchez' way in which he handled their understandable outburst of joy/relief by letting them procede without interruption.

Just because the British have a 'stiff upper lip' doesn't make us any better in these situations.
GE
thegeek Founding member
What's this? Regularly scheduled programming on World?
Asia Today's just popped up. It seems that both the transparent DOG and moving tower are on at once, which obliterates the URL - because one says bbcworld.com, and the other says bbcnews.com.
RH
richard h
congratulations to the itv news team. great coverage both on itv1 and the itv news channel. how many news specials/ news reports did they have throughout the day. has anyone got any pictures that they can upload on any of todays events news channel, news specials or news reports Laughing cool work today on itv news Cool
DE
deejay
thegeek posted:
What's this? Regularly scheduled programming on World?
Asia Today's just popped up. It seems that both the transparent DOG and moving tower are on at once, which obliterates the URL - because one says bbcworld.com, and the other says bbcnews.com.


Asia Today has to be transmitted globally at 2345 because it's recorded in Asia then repeated in that region during their "Breakfast" time, along with live editions of Asia Business Report (from the BBC Singapore bureau) and top-of-the-hour live news from London.

"Asia Today" is made in the World News studio in London. If it isn't transmiitted once by BBC World, then it causes big logistical problems for the regional BBC World operation in Asia.
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tvmercia Founding member
am i right in thinking our moira was the first person to break the news "unconfirmed reports" at the time) on terrestrial telly?

haven't watched n24 since the relaunch day cos it looked crap - watched a bit of their simulcast on bbc 1 and 2 and i'm afraid nothings changed. looks like a cheap, frothy mid-west american local news channel with particularly poor titles. and whats that dog/clock thing about? do we really need an opaque box taking up the bottom left of the picture to remind us we're watching news 24 - the wooden presenting and dentists-waiting-room-esque set should tell us that.

and will someone please go and hit whichever american was responsible for setting up those plasmas over the head with a remote control. did they *really* need to stretch saddam's face from 4:3 to 16:9 *just because they had a wide telly AND ARE GONNA USE IT*. fine, they use 4:3 content - then get a 4:3 monitor or projector.

and as for interrupting reports of the capture of one of the twentieth century's most evil and cruelest dictators (the opponent in a war with this very nation only a few months ago) to bring us the urgent news about the possibility of free school buses in rural areas being scrapped is pathetic. ok, not a good idea to waste the time, effort and money spent generating content - but i maintain there were other avenues available.

a) could have put it on bbc two - with a strap over the bbc two dtt and dsat england feed directing viewers to analogue
b) recording the show as-live for transmission later in the week - surely one of the daytime bbc one gameshows/diy shows could have been dropped one day during the week - or put it on after "this week"
BB
BBC TV Centre
tvmercia posted:
and will someone please go and hit whichever american was responsible for setting up those plasmas over the head with a remote control. did they *really* need to stretch saddam's face from 4:3 to 16:9 *just because they had a wide telly AND ARE GONNA USE IT*. fine, they use 4:3 content - then get a 4:3 monitor or projector.

The thing you point out about widescreen stretching probably is part of the BBC's "everything must be widescreen or near widescreen" policy which they seem to apply to all of their output.

Their news services and children's output seem to be particularly guilty of this - as nearly all the 4:3 material is not kept as that, it is cropped to 14:9 (faux widescreen I call it as it is not really widescreen; just a "compromise" between the two formats). I hate it when they do that and I would rather they keep all material the way it came in, rather than hacking off part of the picture to make it something that it is not.

There was one weekend where I saw Click Online cropped to 16:9, and boy did it look crap. Most of the captions and writing that appeared on screen was simply not visible on my set top box which uses 4:3 centre cut out mode. Having said that, it still looks crap in 14:9 with the top and bottom of the picture hacked off.

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