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(April 2014)

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TL
Three Lefts Do
it could actually be the idents for TLC, Really, Lifetime or pretty much any other channel if you were to change the logo.


Indeed.

If there is meant to be any "concept" etc to the idents, then it's not readily apparent without first reading any accompanying marketing blurb that may or may not exist to "explain" the new look.

From merely watching the idents cold, it appears to be just "people doing stuff" (or, even, just "stuff happening") with a logo slapped on top. Which is about the same as the non-concepts that we often see in many bad TVF mocks.

I might as well stick a camera out of my bedroom window and film the neighbour's cat walking along my garden wall, slap an S4C logo on the footage, and submit it to them! Absolute pish. Rolling Eyes
BR
Brekkie
Even a bit of colour would give it an identity - there is a shot of the logo with the square in red on the creators website and that just screams S4C far more than the white, blue or boxless version
MI
midnightvignette
I could take a guess that the reason for the low key ident launch was because they got a dollop of criticism for how much it cost the last time round, hence avoiding any negative publicity in the Welsh press.

For short films of people those idents really are lifeless though, aren't they? They could be straight out of a corporate video for the Welsh Government.
:-(
A former member
S4C has fallen over this morning, but no Welsh caption, just this:

http://tig.gy/?m=s4c5.jpg
JA
JAS84
No logo, and it's not even in the corporate typeface! Sianel Pedwar Cymru, that is just lazy!
VM
VMPhil
Nevermind the typeface, it isn't in the right language.
Mike516, London Lite and Brekkie gave kudos
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A former member
This was on satellite and may have been added in at some point of the transmission stream outside of S4C's control - hence its generic appearance.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Was S4C's equivalent of this bilingual, back in analogue times?

http://thetvroom.com/images/pool-7/720/main-000-585.jpg
BA
bilky asko
Jonny posted:
All depends on how it's used and the supporting elements.

If it's a licensing thing, have they forgotten to change the Cyw logo in the cap above?


The font is licensed; the typeface is not. Copyright only applies to the font, and not the typeface, so the outline of the typeface used in the Cyw logo does not require a licence. Using the font on the web does.
WH
whoiam989
Jonny posted:
All depends on how it's used and the supporting elements.

If it's a licensing thing, have they forgotten to change the Cyw logo in the cap above?


The font is licensed; the typeface is not. Copyright only applies to the font, and not the typeface, so the outline of the typeface used in the Cyw logo does not require a licence. Using the font on the web does.

It seems that in these days, font and typeface are becoming synonym to each other. I take it that things like font file and metal type is licensed while the shape of letter is not?
BA
bilky asko
Jonny posted:
All depends on how it's used and the supporting elements.

If it's a licensing thing, have they forgotten to change the Cyw logo in the cap above?


The font is licensed; the typeface is not. Copyright only applies to the font, and not the typeface, so the outline of the typeface used in the Cyw logo does not require a licence. Using the font on the web does.

It seems that in these days, font and typeface are becoming synonym to each other. I take it that things like font file and metal type is licensed while the shape of letter is not?


Whilst I can't say anything for metal type, you're right with everything else. The font file is licensed as a copyrighted piece of software.
VM
VMPhil
Interesting reading this thread, it seems most of TV Forum user's opinions have changed over the years: http://www.tvforum.co.uk/forums/post441566#post-441566

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