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markwrightrf
Jobfinder was more of an overnight filler than an actual programme, not dissimilar to ITV Nightscreen or Pages from Ceefax.


That's certainly true in later years, but in Central-land circa 1990, Jobfinder was very definitely a scheduled programme, published in listings magazines, etc. Each "edition" had a title sequence and pre-recorded studio bit featuring presenters such as Vera Gilbert and Yvonne Gaskill (with or without guests) before the Mode 7 teletext and pseudo jazz-funk kicked in, often for several hours.

I don't know the ins and outs of whatever initiative was responsible for launching the service, but I'm almost certain it was a Central-only thing to start with. I know that YTV and Granada were among the first to have their own versions, but Central (at least initially) were clearly keen to present it as an actual programme, irregardless of its ungodly start time, likely audience and absence of adverts. Presumably it was funded somehow?

As this is my first post after years of lurking (so hello everyone!) let me just elaborate a bit more..

In 1990, I was a night-owl computer programmer, already an insomniac, depending on the radio or TV for company until dawn. Central's overnight presentation back then made me feel like I was living in a "futuristic wonderworld" with its frequent ITN headline inserts, inexhaustible idents and programmes from all over the world (well, American Top 10 and Prisoner) and all in the middle of the night! "What an age to live in," I would think, until the likes of Ted May would come along and announce, "it's time to have your pen and paper at the ready as we join the Jobfinder service for the next few hours." Exciting TV suddenly became unnaturally depressing and claustrophobic. I've just checked the YT video place and amusingly there are lots of examples... play them at 4am for full authenticity.

Erm, before I go, can I add to the list of Central-only TX locally-made things..?

What about those PSA (Public Service Announcement) spots that used to pad out ad breaks (especially on Sundays) until, hmm, around 1992? I'm sure they started with ATV, and I don't remember seeing equivalents on the likes of Granada or YTV. Were they a Midlands-only thing? Typically a 30" piece-to-camera from a charity boss, sat on a sofa, making an appeal with an address caption for the final 10" or so. All very tin-pot amateur, but in a good cause!

John Caine (ATV/Central journo) had a "Newshound" spot for younger viewers in the early days of Central. Not sure if that was separate from Central News itself.

And of course, there was that (very) short-lived Sunday evening show, "Mike & Su Sing the Blues For You" (84/85?) featuring Mike Prince and Su Evans in a deserted Lenton Lane studio, sat atop chrome high stools, crooning standards such as Something Stupid, looking into each others eyes while battling with the unruly flex from a Shure SM45... or perhaps that's just my memory playing tricks Wink

What about post-ATV local ads? Don Amott/Cole's of Bilston/DFS all date from the ATV era.. were there *any* significant and persistent local advertisers in the Central era 82-92?
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Jon
Can anyone else remember the Bob Warman family local history gameshow I have recollections of?
Last edited by Jon on 26 July 2015 2:32am
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Rob_Schneider
Bet it was a great excuse if you rocked up late/couldn't be ar*ed to sign-on.

"Sorry mate, I overslept. I was up all night watching Jobfinder."

Some nice hideous non-sync cuts from "normal" programmes into JF on those YT clips.
RO
rob Founding member
Jon posted:
Can anyone else remember the Bob Warman family local history gameshow I have recollections of?


http://ukgameshows.com/ukgs/Back_to_the_Present
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Si-Co
What about those PSA (Public Service Announcement) spots that used to pad out ad breaks (especially on Sundays) until, hmm, around 1992? I'm sure they started with ATV, and I don't remember seeing equivalents on the likes of Granada or YTV. Were they a Midlands-only thing? Typically a 30" piece-to-camera from a charity boss, sat on a sofa, making an appeal with an address caption for the final 10" or so. All very tin-pot amateur, but in a good cause!


Tyne Tees certainly had PSAs from 1982 until the 90s. They appeared to be almost identical in style to the Midlands ones you mentioned. Anything from 'volunteer your time in the soup kitchen' to 'come along to our knitting group'! YTV had something similar called Community Link. The jingles from both I can remember clearly and plenty of examples on YouTube, including "Gan alang to the family planning clinic wi' your lass, man".
Last edited by Si-Co on 26 July 2015 7:02am
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A former member
Surely the psa turned up before the local news? Stv always throw one out at 17.58. Or was that 18.58.

Jobfinder was done in partnership with the local job centres, to help people get better access to all jobs going. Ie the internet of its time Wink it's success rate was pretty good, thus most areas ended up having one. Mind you as been said ytv used it as a buffer during ealry years. Tvs being a posh area never had any unemployment, so um sure it never had Jobfinder.

Stranger thing with tvs, it never broadcast the itn ealry morning news at 5am to begin with, it used to close down at 4am, instead showing the test card for 2 hours, explain that one.

I'm sure central was the last one to continue until ealry 2000 along with Asian eye.
Last edited by A former member on 26 July 2015 9:12am
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IndigoTucker
By the nineties, Central News finished early on a Wednesday to show Lifeline, a five minute psa with video clips hosted by the female Central South presenter, Anne?
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noggin Founding member
Si-Co posted:
What about those PSA (Public Service Announcement) spots that used to pad out ad breaks (especially on Sundays) until, hmm, around 1992? I'm sure they started with ATV, and I don't remember seeing equivalents on the likes of Granada or YTV. Were they a Midlands-only thing? Typically a 30" piece-to-camera from a charity boss, sat on a sofa, making an appeal with an address caption for the final 10" or so. All very tin-pot amateur, but in a good cause!


Tyne Tees certainly had PSAs from 1982 until the 90s. They appeared to be almost identical in style to the Midlands ones you mentioned. Anything from 'volunteer your time in the soup kitchen' to 'come along to our knitting group'! YTV had something similar called Community Link. The jingles from both I can remember clearly and plenty of examples on YouTube, including "Gan alang to the family planning clinic wi' your lass, man".


TVS did too. They were branded PO Box 13 I think (from the postal address you sent them in to?) Odd what you remember...

Indeed YouTube confirms it. That jingle brings back some memories. (Sorry this is a bit off topic) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrMsHMZ-8Aw
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A former member
By the nineties, Central News finished early on a Wednesday to show Lifeline, a five minute psa with video clips hosted by the female Central South presenter, Anne?


Didn't Central also do that to slot in Police 5?
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begleybegley
Ah, Lifeline! I remember that well and probably watched it daily! I was quite young at the time, so I'm assuming it was scheduled teatime near the children's programmes/Supermarket Sweep during the late Carlton era?

Tried trawling for references to it online and managed to uncover this very interesting 'Carlton Annual Report' from the end of 2002/2003 which lists some of the Central regional programmes still produced in the final year before true ITV amalgamation.

http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archive/itc/uploads/Carlton_Central_Statement_of_Programme_Commitment_2003.pdf
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Interceptor
Jobfinder was more of an overnight filler than an actual programme, not dissimilar to ITV Nightscreen or Pages from Ceefax.


That's certainly true in later years, but in Central-land circa 1990, Jobfinder was very definitely a scheduled programme, published in listings magazines, etc. Each "edition" had a title sequence and pre-recorded studio bit featuring presenters such as Vera Gilbert and Yvonne Gaskill (with or without guests) before the Mode 7 teletext and pseudo jazz-funk kicked in, often for several hours.

I don't know the ins and outs of whatever initiative was responsible for launching the service, but I'm almost certain it was a Central-only thing to start with. I know that YTV and Granada were among the first to have their own versions, but Central (at least initially) were clearly keen to present it as an actual programme, irregardless of its ungodly start time, likely audience and absence of adverts. Presumably it was funded somehow?

Well, Pages from Ceefax was sometimes listed. When it started, Central would go through a rather lovely closedown sequence before Jobfinder began. I think they gradually stopped doing that as they made more of a deal of 24 hour broadcasting.

What about post-ATV local ads? Don Amott/Cole's of Bilston/DFS all date from the ATV era.. were there *any* significant and persistent local advertisers in the Central era 82-92?

There were loads of UPVC Window ones in the late 90s.
LI
livereport
Lifeline was presented initially by Anne Dawson, presenter of Central News South. Anne now works at the University of Gloucestershire

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