SR
It was never BBC LDN. It's always been BBC London 94.9 - it's just the logo that says LDN.
deejay posted:
Take the local radio service. It was originally BBC Radio London , then became BBC Greater London Radio, then BBC GLR, then BBC LDN (and was it also called London Live for a while ?) Now it's referred to as BBC London 94.9.
It was never BBC LDN. It's always been BBC London 94.9 - it's just the logo that says LDN.
DA
It makes me so happy when people repeat completely everything you've already said.
Anyway, the on-screen graphic industry must be animal lovers of some sort. On top of DOGs and bugs, you have DINGOs and CATs. Aaaaahhhh...
DAS
Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:
The BBC One "Festival" music has been remixed into a dance track for nightclubs.
If you're interested in it, look for State One - Forever and a Day. AFAIK there are 2 versions, one a vocal mix, the other without.
If you're interested in it, look for State One - Forever and a Day. AFAIK there are 2 versions, one a vocal mix, the other without.
It makes me so happy when people repeat completely everything you've already said.
Anyway, the on-screen graphic industry must be animal lovers of some sort. On top of DOGs and bugs, you have DINGOs and CATs. Aaaaahhhh...
MD
It makes me so happy when people repeat completely everything you've already said.
Anyway, the on-screen graphic industry must be animal lovers of some sort. On top of DOGs and bugs, you have DINGOs and CATs. Aaaaahhhh...
My fault for not reading every post word for word, but then again there are better things to do. I saw the question about the music, and replied.
Sue me!
DAS posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
The BBC One "Festival" music has been remixed into a dance track for nightclubs.
If you're interested in it, look for State One - Forever and a Day. AFAIK there are 2 versions, one a vocal mix, the other without.
If you're interested in it, look for State One - Forever and a Day. AFAIK there are 2 versions, one a vocal mix, the other without.
It makes me so happy when people repeat completely everything you've already said.
Anyway, the on-screen graphic industry must be animal lovers of some sort. On top of DOGs and bugs, you have DINGOs and CATs. Aaaaahhhh...
My fault for not reading every post word for word, but then again there are better things to do. I saw the question about the music, and replied.
Sue me!
DA
It makes me so happy when people repeat completely everything you've already said.
Anyway, the on-screen graphic industry must be animal lovers of some sort. On top of DOGs and bugs, you have DINGOs and CATs. Aaaaahhhh...
My fault for not reading every post word for word, but then again there are better things to do. I saw the question about the music, and replied.
Sue me!
The wheels are in motion already. Watch the letterbox for the papers.
DAS
Founding member
martinDTanderson posted:
DAS posted:
martinDTanderson posted:
The BBC One "Festival" music has been remixed into a dance track for nightclubs.
If you're interested in it, look for State One - Forever and a Day. AFAIK there are 2 versions, one a vocal mix, the other without.
If you're interested in it, look for State One - Forever and a Day. AFAIK there are 2 versions, one a vocal mix, the other without.
It makes me so happy when people repeat completely everything you've already said.
Anyway, the on-screen graphic industry must be animal lovers of some sort. On top of DOGs and bugs, you have DINGOs and CATs. Aaaaahhhh...
My fault for not reading every post word for word, but then again there are better things to do. I saw the question about the music, and replied.
Sue me!
The wheels are in motion already. Watch the letterbox for the papers.
:-(
A former member
Hiya guys,
Thanks very much for the multiple replies (and subsequent arguments)
I got the State One CD from a local DJ who bought it - so thanks for that!
I now also understand what DOGs are and Bugs - lets just hope that the DOGs dont get any BUGs (sorry lol)
Unlike a few of you, I have no real experience in media except Radio (Hospital & Commercial) so TV is altogether different.
I can easilly talk about RCS, ISDN Links, 12 channel mixers etc etc but DOGs and Green screens and ASTONs - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol
Anyways hopefukly ill keep time to become a regular poster here.
Apollo
Thanks very much for the multiple replies (and subsequent arguments)
I got the State One CD from a local DJ who bought it - so thanks for that!
I now also understand what DOGs are and Bugs - lets just hope that the DOGs dont get any BUGs (sorry lol)
Unlike a few of you, I have no real experience in media except Radio (Hospital & Commercial) so TV is altogether different.
I can easilly talk about RCS, ISDN Links, 12 channel mixers etc etc but DOGs and Green screens and ASTONs - aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa lol
Anyways hopefukly ill keep time to become a regular poster here.
Apollo
BE
I think the idea is that everything that's produced by the BBC for the London region - TV news, radio and the internet - all comes under the LDN brand, then these additional bits are tagged on for the individual services - News for the TV; 94.9 for the radio (but nothing else for the web). That's why the different media get flashed up on the opening of the news programme.
The radio seems a bit strange - it's referred to as "London 94.9 on its website" but the logos reflect LDN and if you have an RDS radio it's referred to as LDN. And it used to be BBC London Live - it changed its name when LDN was introduced (when Newsroom South East split into London and South-East regions).
I wouldn't agree it's a mess - it works quite well. I listen to the radio station, watch the news if I'm home from work and even the website's not too bad. It creates a sense of continuity across the media and you get a fair degree of cross-promotion. Better than, for example, BBC Scotland's cross-promotion.
deejay posted:
The "LDN" name is frankly a bit of a mystery. No-one to my knowledge has satisfactorily explained why the people at Marylebone High Street think we cannot cope with "London" as the region's name. The London region seems to change the names of it's local services every so often for not much reason:
Take the local radio service. It was originally BBC Radio London , then became BBC Greater London Radio, then BBC GLR, then BBC LDN (and was it also called London Live for a while ?) Now it's referred to as BBC London 94.9.
For television, the programme is referred to as BBC London News, but the graphics and ident before the progamme are branded BBC LDN, unless you're watching the BBC ONE "England" DSAT feed, where a non-regional ident is used !
All in all a bit of a mess.
Take the local radio service. It was originally BBC Radio London , then became BBC Greater London Radio, then BBC GLR, then BBC LDN (and was it also called London Live for a while ?) Now it's referred to as BBC London 94.9.
For television, the programme is referred to as BBC London News, but the graphics and ident before the progamme are branded BBC LDN, unless you're watching the BBC ONE "England" DSAT feed, where a non-regional ident is used !
All in all a bit of a mess.
I think the idea is that everything that's produced by the BBC for the London region - TV news, radio and the internet - all comes under the LDN brand, then these additional bits are tagged on for the individual services - News for the TV; 94.9 for the radio (but nothing else for the web). That's why the different media get flashed up on the opening of the news programme.
The radio seems a bit strange - it's referred to as "London 94.9 on its website" but the logos reflect LDN and if you have an RDS radio it's referred to as LDN. And it used to be BBC London Live - it changed its name when LDN was introduced (when Newsroom South East split into London and South-East regions).
I wouldn't agree it's a mess - it works quite well. I listen to the radio station, watch the news if I'm home from work and even the website's not too bad. It creates a sense of continuity across the media and you get a fair degree of cross-promotion. Better than, for example, BBC Scotland's cross-promotion.
GE
I thought they always used Alba idents to introduce Gaelic programming - complete with an entirely Gaelic (or sometimes bilingual) announcement.
I even spotted a CBeebies Alba announcement the other day. The blobs didn't have kilts on, though.
thegeek
Founding member
H.M.S posted:
Sometimes BBC Scotland use BBC Alba to introduce the Gaelic programmes.
I thought they always used Alba idents to introduce Gaelic programming - complete with an entirely Gaelic (or sometimes bilingual) announcement.
I even spotted a CBeebies Alba announcement the other day. The blobs didn't have kilts on, though.
CW
It's an odd brand though in that's purely used on screen and never spoken about. The ident has 'BBC1 LDN' but is referring to as 'BBC1 for London'. The news titles have 'LDN' on screen but the programme is referred to as BBC London News.
Aside from the fact that contracting the name of a city to try and impose some short of shorthand brand doesn't work when no one will embrace it(I don't think we'll see anyone announce that they are going to LDN for a day trip), and it's weakened further by the fact that it's presented to you onscreen but never acknowledged beyond that.
If they must impose a blanket brand over London's local tv, radio and web services, they firstly need a better brand than LDN (what next, MCR, LDS, BGM, PMH?) and they secondly need to acknowledge it's existance.
cwathen
Founding member
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think the idea is that everything that's produced by the BBC for the London region - TV news, radio and the internet - all comes under the LDN brand, then these additional bits are tagged on for the individual services - News for the TV; 94.9 for the radio (but nothing else for the web). That's why the different media get flashed up on the opening of the news programme.
It's an odd brand though in that's purely used on screen and never spoken about. The ident has 'BBC1 LDN' but is referring to as 'BBC1 for London'. The news titles have 'LDN' on screen but the programme is referred to as BBC London News.
Aside from the fact that contracting the name of a city to try and impose some short of shorthand brand doesn't work when no one will embrace it(I don't think we'll see anyone announce that they are going to LDN for a day trip), and it's weakened further by the fact that it's presented to you onscreen but never acknowledged beyond that.
If they must impose a blanket brand over London's local tv, radio and web services, they firstly need a better brand than LDN (what next, MCR, LDS, BGM, PMH?) and they secondly need to acknowledge it's existance.
BE
To be fair, I don't see how else they could acknowledge its existence, other than use it in their idents, branding of the TV news and on their website. I suppose the BBC would argue that it's impossible to pronounce LDN other than as "London" so that's what their presenters do.
All I can say is that, living in London and also taking an interest in presentation, it works better than a lot of other branding the BBC does.
All I can say is that, living in London and also taking an interest in presentation, it works better than a lot of other branding the BBC does.
MT
"Luddon?" Sounds like "London" with a nasty head cold. Or some American who might not know how to correctly pronounce "Luton".
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beefqueen posted:
I suppose the BBC would argue that it's impossible to pronounce LDN other than as "London" so that's what their presenters do.
"Luddon?" Sounds like "London" with a nasty head cold. Or some American who might not know how to correctly pronounce "Luton".
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DA
DAS
Founding member
Essentially, the idea was to create a distinct BBC brand for London. If it were just called "BBC London", it wouldn't be as recognisable. But when you see "BBC LDN" it instantly makes you think of the tri-media service, and that's exactly the point. However, this is only used visually - in speech, it is identified as BBC London. The words "BBC London" are also sometimes used in print and on-screen in some promotions, but the key thing is the LDN in visuals.