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(December 2003)

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A former member
I live in Scotland and have noticed that the English regions all appear to be shortened, eg BBC London = BBC LDN | BBC Manchester = BBC MCR or something.

Just wondering why BBC Scotland :

1) Uses BBC Scotland
2) has a different news name from everywhere else - everywhere else is like Midlands Today - we have Reporting Scotland as Scotland Today is Scottish Televisions news service (ITV1 in England)

Also I have noticed mocks of ITV1 Scottish idents - just to clarify, Scottish TV NEVER uses ITV Branding except:

1) ITV News
2) ITV Nightscreen

At no other time will you see "ITV1" or "ITV" on the air.

Apollo
NW
nwtv2003
I think the BBC names have something to do with the Nationwide days for the names of regional news programmes, this when most of the BBC regions were very new, it's where they got Look North, Look East, Points West and others came from, assuming they've been using Reporting Scotland for a while and assuming that STV have been using Scotland Today for a while too.

Though BBC MCR never appears on screen, it's just a thing used by the BBC Manchester website. Though I think The City of Manchester use MCR from time to time aswell, meaning it isn't the BBC only. LDN, was going to be London Live it never happened.
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A former member
OK I see.

Also - I am new to this forum thingy - can I ask what the following stand for or Are:

DOG (as in the BBC News 24 logo thing)
Ident
CSO

and any others you can think of I may need to know.

Cheers
Apollo
DA
DAS Founding member
I suggest you click on the "TV FAQ" link at the top this page.
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A former member
DAS posted:
I suggest you click on the "TV FAQ" link at the top this page.

DAS, have you clicked the link recently...? Wink

DOG Digitally originated/overlaid graphic
CSO Colour seperation overlay
DA
DAS Founding member
Andrew Wood posted:
DAS posted:
I suggest you click on the "TV FAQ" link at the top this page.

DAS, have you clicked the link recently...? Wink


Ah.


Well a DOG is a digital on-screen graphic or digitally orientated graphic, basically it's a permanent channel logo that sits in the corner of the screen. An ident is the channel identification - for BBC One it would be the dancers, for ITV 1 the gormless celebrities. CSO stands for Colour Separation Overlay and is the posh word for blue or green screen - the substitution of a single colour with a picture, as used in weather forecasts.
NH
Nick Harvey Founding member
And FAQ SNAFU stands for....................

<grin>
DA
DAS Founding member
Andrew Wood posted:
DAS posted:
I suggest you click on the "TV FAQ" link at the top this page.

DAS, have you clicked the link recently...? Wink

DOG Digitally originated/overlaid graphic
CSO Colour seperation overlay


I love this! Me and Andrew between us have come up with 4 possible words for the "O" in " DOG"!

Originated
On-screen
Overlaid
Orientated
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A former member
Cheers for that and for god sake I hope i havent caused a mass fallout ha ha

I get enough of that at School

By the way - does anyone know if the BBC is going to release their Ident music for the nightclub - i could really do with it, or if anyone has a non-spoken over one of the 10-20 seconds that it is displayed its be really helpfull.

Cheers
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A former member
DAS posted:
I love this! Me and Andrew between us have come up with 4 possible words for the "O" in "DOG"!

Originated
On-screen
Overlaid
Orientated


Well all graphics on TV are digitally originated, so it's not that. And it's not orientated either as that makes no sense.

I prefer the term Bug, which was the commonly-used name for them until recently
MS
Mark Smith
apollo13_2004 posted:
Cheers for that and for god sake I hope i havent caused a mass fallout ha ha

I get enough of that at School

By the way - does anyone know if the BBC is going to release their Ident music for the nightclub - i could really do with it, or if anyone has a non-spoken over one of the 10-20 seconds that it is displayed its be really helpfull.

Cheers

That "nightclub" ident is called Festival...it used to be available on the BBC website (although I think it was with a voice-over) but only the new idents now seem to be on there, and not any of the original set, though they're still used on screen. Confused

Generally the BBC don't release "clean" versions of their idents, apperentally for copyright reasons.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/downloads/

As for the DOG confusion, I've always understood it to be "digital on-screen graphic"...but I've understood a lot of things and turned out to be wrong!
DV
dvboy
apollo13_2004 posted:
By the way - does anyone know if the BBC is going to release their Ident music for the nightclub - i could really do with it, or if anyone has a non-spoken over one of the 10-20 seconds that it is displayed its be really helpfull.


It was released, I'm sure of it, or a remix of it. I've heard it on Dave Pearce's Radio 1 show before. A long tedious browse through the requests forum should find it's name.

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