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Red Nose Day 2017

(March 2017)

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LL
Larry the Loafer


On the subject of the British Comedy Awards, after Channel 4 axed it, the producer said that they were in talks with another broadcaster. The link to the press release which is still on the website is entitled "exciting news for the BCA's".

I'm guessing those talks never got anywhere, and they never found another broadcaster.


I'm surprised Dave never snapped them up. Would've had a great home there.

Can't imagine it being quite the same event on Daves budget


Better than the budget they have now.
KE
kernow

I'm surprised Dave never snapped them up. Would've had a great home there.

Can't imagine it being quite the same event on Daves budget


Better than the budget they have now.

Not necessarily. They wouldn't have done a deal if the amount being offered would have resulted in the programme being financially unviable (i.e. loss making).
WH
Whataday Founding member
Awards are fairly easy to fund via corporate sponsorships, rather than broadcast rights.
WH
Whataday Founding member
Red Nose Day BBC One Ratings
2017 6.3 million
2015: 8.1 million
2013: 9.9 million
2011: 9.9 million
2009: 10.3 million
2007: 9.5 million
2005: 10.4 million
2003: 11.5 million
2001: 9.1 million
:-(
A former member
That just bad, but again there dont care the money still comes in. I also was not able to watch any content but It just felt dull again this year. Go back a few years its was all hyped up and fun but now its just here some crap and were just take the money, thank you.
MA
Markymark
It's all for charity and rightly an incredible amount of money was raised, but the main purpose of the telethon is to be an entertainment programme. I'm a bit put out by those who seem to consider that because it's for a good cause, the telethon itself should be immune to criticism.

And the two aren't separate either really. Many of us who've grown up with Comic Relief donate largely because of what we remember from the telethons over the years - if the show itself becomes less entertaining and gets less viewers over the years ultimately it will hit the donations.


Maybe, just maybe, the concept of the 'Telethon' is now dead. Little else from the world of 1980s broadcasting survives, so really is it such a surprise CiN and Comic Relief are so poor ? Or perhaps they always were, but production values for LE are so high and precisely tuned now, that by their nature Telethons need to reinvent themselves ?

Can you imagine Eurovision going back to being presented in a studio, with five cameras ?
Rkolsen and London Lite gave kudos
WH
Whataday Founding member
I'm sure it's been said before that Comic Relief pretty much know the total before the night even starts.

There's really a massive difference in the amount raised now compared to the 90s even allowing for inflation. In those days it was pretty much like clockwork. The Big Breakfast would kick off fundraising, and they'd start the night off on about 500k. WHSmith used to raise one or two million or so for Red Nose sales. I think Texaco would do about half a mil for car noses and I can't quite remember who did the t-shirts (I want to say C&A) but they would do another 500k. The amount Sainsburys does on Red Noses and accessories is phenomenal now.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Of course there are loads of Red Noses in sealed bags now, so many people probably might buy a couple.

But yes, the majority of donations will be on merchandise and school/workplace events. I don't know if workplaces still do much, mine never does as we have defined charities that all events across the year go towards. But if every person on average pays £1 to go to school in non-uniform, and another £1 to throw sponges at a teacher, and £1 for a bake sale, it all adds up before the telethon itself.
EU
Eurovictorious
It's all for charity and rightly an incredible amount of money was raised, but the main purpose of the telethon is to be an entertainment programme. I'm a bit put out by those who seem to consider that because it's for a good cause, the telethon itself should be immune to criticism.

And the two aren't separate either really. Many of us who've grown up with Comic Relief donate largely because of what we remember from the telethons over the years - if the show itself becomes less entertaining and gets less viewers over the years ultimately it will hit the donations.


Maybe, just maybe, the concept of the 'Telethon' is now dead. Little else from the world of 1980s broadcasting survives, so really is it such a surprise CiN and Comic Relief are so poor ? Or perhaps they always were, but production values for LE are so high and precisely tuned now, that by their nature Telethons need to reinvent themselves ?

Can you imagine Eurovision going back to being presented in a studio, with five cameras ?


I thought it was being held in the Ukraine this year? Wink

But seriously, I think you're right. The telethon idea is a little dated in a way. Compare, for example, what ITV did with the Telethons in 1988, 1990 and 1992 and then look at what they do now with Text Santa. Same message, but it's just been repackaged for this decade. In commercial radio, Global have got all their ducks in a row for Make Some Noise where all their brands do their bit. It's taken the old Gold Rush and Charity Auction format and again modernised it - and they raise a phenomenal amount.

In terms of LE, yes things have got bigger. The X Factor and Strictly have set new benchmarks for Saturday Night entertainment. Saturday Night Takeaway isn't doing anything new, really - it's just reinvented the lovechild of Noel's House Party and Toothbrush for the 2010's. You mention Eurovision - the various producers, particularly in what I'd call the "post-Wogan" years, have put a huge amount of effort into making it a first-class television production. The Swedish production last year was phenomenal, and the brave decision to revise the way the scores were presented made for incredible television. You don't watch the X Factor and know Louisa Johnson has won ages before the end do you? Oh, wait. Wink

The X Factor doesn't do a charity single anymore - but the profits from the winner's single go to charity instead. The cynic in me says that's designed to derail another Rage Against The Machine campaign (if you derail the song you hate sick kids) but they're still doing their bit. (Cowell of course does a significant amount of charity work discreetly, he just chooses not to shout about it.)

Loads of shops in my town got involved in various activities and fun-days in the run-up, as did all the local schools. I think people just raise money in different ways now. The cake sales, the workplace events, it's basically more "organised" now. And as has been mentioned, big companies hunt as a pack now - if you work for pretty much any national name they'll have a significant charity department.
CW
Charlie Wells Moderator
Watching it on Friday there was noticeable issues with the acoustics. This perhaps affected the atmosphere & studio audience's response, and was the reason some features didn't quite work. For me the Vic & Bob sketch felt somewhat awkward, and I dare say not one of Vic's 'props' (or at least I hope it was) wasn't entirely suitable for pre-watershed. I did like the bit of fun continuity on BBC2 at 10pm between the female announcer (whose name I don't know) and Duncan.
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
Yeah, I have a feeling the acoustics might have affected the audience as well, I know Vic and Bob aren't for everyone but there were at least a couple of lines that would've got a decent laugh out of most audiences that got absolutely nothing, same with one or two things guests said in Graham Norton's slot.

There were a few strange choices with the running order, seems that Norton's big sofa meant that there wasn't room for anything else on stage so a few things that ordinarily might be post-news were on much earlier. I really like Toast of London but it's not exactly a mainstream show so the pre-watershed slot was a bit odd, in hindsight that should've been pre-recorded on location.
BU
buster
Wasn't the audience standing? That wouldn't have helped in them relaxing and laughing.
The sheer amount of background noise at some bits suggested there might have been a bar - bit of a mistake if so, they need to be sure the audience are paying attention.

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