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(August 2008)

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JO
John
Not being a great admirer of the uninspiring idents that Red Bee seem to churn out, I found this article in Design Week quite interesting:

Design Week

Red Bee Media domination of BBC roster examined

Source: Magazine
Publication date: 21 August 2008 12:09 AM
Author: Gina Lovett

BBC’s roster review has provoked fresh allegations about Red Bee Media’s dominance as a creative consultant to the broadcaster, Gina Lovett reports

Like free-pitching, the age-old conundrum of public sector procurement and getting on to rosters is a somewhat jaded design discussion that will rage on for ever more. Designers these days tend to be resigned to the fact that jumping through hoops and wrangling through red tape is all part of the job, and most doggedly plod on with the process, doing what they can.

The BBC’s recent review of its design roster, however, is a hot potato that has once again stoked the fire. Among the screen design community, in particular, rumblings of discon - tent about an uneven playing field and the dominance of one group on that roster – Red Bee Media – are recurring.

Allegations range from the BBC’s former in-house unit winning an array of financially beneficial contracts, to claims of work being ‘handed out’ instead of being competitively tendered among rostered groups.

It is easy to see why some consultancies might feel res - entment. Since its formation in 2005 as a result of Australian investment bank Macquarie Capital Alliance Group’s acquisition of BBC commercial division BBC Broadcast, the group has taken on some of the public broadcaster’s most high-profile design projects.

Since becoming an indepen - dent and private group, born out of the BBC, Red Bee Med - ia has rebranded BBC One, BBC Three, CBBC and BBCflag ship current affairs prog - ramme Panorama, refreshed idents for BBC London News, and crea ted the BBC’s title sequence for its coverage of the Beijing Olympics, all of which Red Bee Media and the BBC say were fairly pitched for. Rostered consultancies including Lam bie-Nairn, The Partners and Fallon are known to have competed for the work.

Red Bee Media, which incorporates divisions across services including playout and media management, access, language localisation and list - ings, as well as creative, has lost out on projects to other cons ultancies too.

It missed out on the opportunity to refresh BBC’s radio station identities to ad agency Fallon last year; the branding of BBC iPlayer to The Partners in 2006; and this year’s rebranding of BBC News went to Lambie-Nairn.

Though it is not known exactly how many strategic and identity design projects out of a possible total Red Bee Media has won, it does seem to have lost relatively few by compari - son. So, is it a case of Red Bee Media being the strongest creative and technical contender that allows it to win pitches time and time again, or does it, as some within the industry claim, have unfair advantage?

Those within Red Bee Media point out that what has been widely perceived among the screen design industry as a ‘favourable’ contract for Red Bee Media – the long-standing agreement between the BBC and Red Bee Media to supply certain services back to its former owner until 2015, and part of the deal when BBC sold BBC Broadcast to Macquarie – is completely separate from any roster contract.

‘The design business in Red Bee has no contracted revenue from the BBC, distinct from other businesses within Red Bee which do have long-term contracts in place for core services such as playout or subtitling. These contracts were guaranteed to the purchaser of Red Bee at the point of sale three years ago.

As such, BBC revenues in this area account for less than 30 per cent of the design business turnover,’ says Red Bee Media head of design Jeff Conrad.

Those within Red Bee Media also point out that while it is housed within the BBC’s White City Media Centre, the group has grown its own range of skills and expertise across technical services and products– including digitising, storage and content delivery resource Digital Hive, multi-platform navigation tool Sherpa, On Demand Cont ent Distribution and 3D sports graphics system Piero – off its own back. The development of these products has enabled it to bolster its overall offer.

However, given the amount of work being picked up by Red Bee Media, it is no surprise that the disgruntled are asking exactly how many branding and design contracts the BBC has awarded to Red Bee Media, what the value of these contracts was, and how they were awarded.

Efforts by the aggrieved to unearth this information under the Freedom of Information Act in recent months have proved unfruitful on the basis that such revelations would prejudice the commercial interests of both the public service broadcaster and Red Bee Media.

Design Week has asked the BBC for further details of how, and on what criteria, it awards projects to consultancies on its design roster, and, though unable to answer questions specifically at the time of going to press, it is currently endeav - our ing to obtain the information. It reassures us that it operates under EU procurement law.

BACKGROUND

• Red Bee Media creates title sequence for the BBC’s coverage of the Beijing Olympics (August

• BBC News rebrands under Lambie-Nairn (April)

• BBC Three undergoes £750 000 rebrand designed by Red Bee Media (January)

• BBC relaunches its national radio stations under identities created by Fallon. The advertising agency clinches the £120 000 contract following a four-way pitch (August 2007)

• Red Bee Media refreshes visual identity and idents for CBBC (August 2007)

• Abbott Mead Vickers designs BBC Two on-screen look, with production by Red Bee Media (February 2007)

• BBC One’s Panorama gets a Red Bee Media refresh, after a seven-way pitch (January 2007)

• Red Bee Media designs logo, brand, on-screen identity and pro - motions for BBC’s trial of high-definition television (June 2006)

• BBC brands iPlayer, with the help of The Partners. (May 2006)

• Red Bee Media redesigns BBC One’s idents, following a pitch against Lambie-Nairn, Wolff Olins and Attik (March 2006)

• Red Bee Media redesigns the idents for BBC London News (January 2006)
PC
Paul Clark
I think this really depends on the quality and potential of the ideas put forward by the other agencies.

Red Bee were chosen to rebrand BBC1, but I would like to have heard what Wolff Olins, Attik, and Lambie-Nairn did pitch as well. But we don't know, because we are never told about the 'losing' concepts.

So it's always left to us to guess what might have been - instead, if we were given background on all the other pitches, it would allow us to at least weigh up the different ideas, debate the pros and cons, and say "I think the best idea did / didn't win because..." and so forth.

Doing that would go at least some way to help us either understand why Red Bee is so prolific, or, if up against strong(er) ideas, give reason to call their rate of commission wins within the Beeb into question.

Maybe the competition did have poorer ideas; we all know how disgusted people were (myself included) at Wolff Olins' £400K London 2012 logo - but I still can't help wondering whether Red Bee are being given undue prominence when it comes to BBC branding, when TBH, compared to the standard (along with the consistency and oft-relevant style) of past BBC identities, their ideas just don't strike me as being 'better than the rest' as often as they (apparently) are - they get commissioned for much work, yet little of it seems to make a big impact. Maybe, sadly, the all-round standard has just dropped.
JO
Joe
Paul Clark posted:
£400K London 2012 logo

I like it. Now.
PC
Paul Clark
Jugalug posted:
Paul Clark posted:
£400K London 2012 logo

I like it. Now.

I'm afraid I still have a great dislike for it - the initial reaction of the "What the..?!" has subsided, and I've come to accept it - BUT, having the 2012 split onto two lines, so large yet not particularly legible, and the Olympic rings so comparatively small, along with the pitiful lowercase 'london' (which by suggestion has little sense of worthiness, regardless of the intent) still makes no sense to me.

Anyway, we digress. That aside, on the whole would you agree with what I've said re: commissions, Red Bee their work within the Beeb? I'm interested to hear what you reckon.
JO
Joe
Paul Clark posted:
Anyway, we digress. That aside, on the whole would you agree with what I've said re: commissions, Red Bee their work within the Beeb? I'm interested to hear what you reckon.

I'd agree - my first reaction was 'about time too', but then after thinking about it for a few minutes, I came to the same conclusion as you - that maybe Red Bee fairly won their pitches? We do, as you say, need to see the alternatives before judging it. However, part of me does wonder how they can be so prominent when there are other such proven companies competing.
RE
Reboot
Jugalug posted:
Paul Clark posted:
£400K London 2012 logo

I like it. Now.

I don't - I still see a Simpsons character performing an obscene act when I look at it.
DB
dbl
Jugalug posted:
Paul Clark posted:
£400K London 2012 logo

I like it. Now.

Shocked
JO
Joe
dbl posted:
Jugalug posted:
Paul Clark posted:
£400K London 2012 logo

I like it. Now.

Shocked

Yes, that's what I said.
TC
TCOTV
Jugalug posted:
dbl posted:
Jugalug posted:
Paul Clark posted:
£400K London 2012 logo

I like it. Now.

Shocked

Yes, that's what I said.

logo: http://www.rp-network.com/tvforum/uploads/images.jpg
I like it to because when you look at it for the first time you think what that but when you keep looking the shapes make 2012. It also different to the other logos for the Olympics. Making London logo unique.
AG
AxG
http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2770/london2012logoaxgdh3.png
Still think it looks better when I tried to
modify it last year.

Anyway, why has that piece got a lot of dashes in it when they shouldn't be there, eg: Med - ia, indepen - dent.
JO
Joe
AxG posted:
Anyway, why has that piece got a lot of dashes in it when they shouldn't be there, eg: Med - ia, indepen - dent.

I'm guess-
ing it's be-
cause they
were at the
end of the
line like so.

But now it doesn't make sense as it was copied and pasted.
AG
AxG
Jugalug posted:
AxG posted:
Anyway, why has that piece got a lot of dashes in it when they shouldn't be there, eg: Med - ia, indepen - dent.

I'm guess-
ing it's be-
cause they
were at the
end of the
line like so.

But now it doesn't make sense as it was copied and pasted.

Nope, the website has them scattered about the place and even a few spaces around the place (Lam bie-Nairn) Confused

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