SP
I can get a second hand ipod nano which apparently can do it for just a little bit less than that!
BL
And I was misremembering, Sing Something Simple was on before the chart.
There was a period in the 70s when it was after the chart, so you didn't necessarily mis-remember
I'm just about to start transferring my 1/4" tape collection from the early 70's to the PC and among the recordings are some chart shows, Sing Something Simple with 'The Cliff Adam Singers' features before the start of the recordings I made at the time although I can imagine it moved around the schedule.
Some may remember too that Radio 1 also took over the Radio 2 FM network at 10pm each weekday evening and we were treated to shows such as 'The Sequence', 'Sounds of the Sounds' and some of John Peel's eclectic programmes. I'm looking forward to hearing those when I transfer them too.
And I was misremembering, Sing Something Simple was on before the chart.
There was a period in the 70s when it was after the chart, so you didn't necessarily mis-remember
I'm just about to start transferring my 1/4" tape collection from the early 70's to the PC and among the recordings are some chart shows, Sing Something Simple with 'The Cliff Adam Singers' features before the start of the recordings I made at the time although I can imagine it moved around the schedule.
Some may remember too that Radio 1 also took over the Radio 2 FM network at 10pm each weekday evening and we were treated to shows such as 'The Sequence', 'Sounds of the Sounds' and some of John Peel's eclectic programmes. I'm looking forward to hearing those when I transfer them too.
MA
And I was misremembering, Sing Something Simple was on before the chart.
There was a period in the 70s when it was after the chart, so you didn't necessarily mis-remember
I'm just about to start transferring my 1/4" tape collection from the early 70's to the PC and among the recordings are some chart shows, Sing Something Simple with 'The Cliff Adam Singers' features before the start of the recordings I made at the time although I can imagine it moved around the schedule. Yep! Carries PVT Radio 1. GE75 clears it for 10kW but we think it is doing 3kW in practice. Difficult to know for sure without asking them and leading to suspicion!!
I've got a feeling it was during the Alan Freeman's tenure of the chart ? I recall Clive Dunn's 'Grandad' being No 1, so actually having SSS straight after would have been a relief of sorts !
Some may remember too that Radio 1 also took over the Radio 2 FM network at 10pm each weekday evening and we were treated to shows such as 'The Sequence', 'Sounds of the Sounds' and some of John Peel's eclectic programmes. I'm looking forward to hearing those when I transfer them too.
Ha, yes, as a 10 year old, I found them far too weird to listen to, and I'd retune at 10pm to BBC Radio Oxford, who carried Radio 2's 'LW' service on FM after 10pm (as did all the BBC LRs back then)
And I was misremembering, Sing Something Simple was on before the chart.
There was a period in the 70s when it was after the chart, so you didn't necessarily mis-remember
I'm just about to start transferring my 1/4" tape collection from the early 70's to the PC and among the recordings are some chart shows, Sing Something Simple with 'The Cliff Adam Singers' features before the start of the recordings I made at the time although I can imagine it moved around the schedule. Yep! Carries PVT Radio 1. GE75 clears it for 10kW but we think it is doing 3kW in practice. Difficult to know for sure without asking them and leading to suspicion!!
I've got a feeling it was during the Alan Freeman's tenure of the chart ? I recall Clive Dunn's 'Grandad' being No 1, so actually having SSS straight after would have been a relief of sorts !
Some may remember too that Radio 1 also took over the Radio 2 FM network at 10pm each weekday evening and we were treated to shows such as 'The Sequence', 'Sounds of the Sounds' and some of John Peel's eclectic programmes. I'm looking forward to hearing those when I transfer them too.
Ha, yes, as a 10 year old, I found them far too weird to listen to, and I'd retune at 10pm to BBC Radio Oxford, who carried Radio 2's 'LW' service on FM after 10pm (as did all the BBC LRs back then)
BL
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... The old Quad VTR format had dreadful quality audio, and I'm not sure it even supported stereo ? ...
I think maybe a little bit 'cruel' on the Quad format? Consulting my copy of 'Ennis' - the 'Bible' off quad engineers of the time! he states that Quad has a frequency response of 50z - 15khz although I don't have the noise figures to hand and to be honest I'm too lazy to look! So that bandwidth is what was required for mono FM broadcasting at the time. Given that most of us were still listening to 1/4" tape or audio cassettes I think Quad held up quite well. The second audio track, the 'cue track' has a much inferior performance but it was never intended to be for broadcast use as I'm sure you know.
I believe Ampex flirted with two broadcast quality linear stereo tracks on their AVR3 machines, but I can't give you a definitive answer. I don't believe it was widely taken up as of course 1" was taking over. 1" of course did have 4 broadcast quality linear audio tracks but no separate cue track. As a result one of those tracks was usually dedicated to linear timecode duties (A3 or A4 I can't remember now) and so laying off stereo became impossible. As I think Noggin posted earlier Bel Boxes came into day to day use for the laying off of audio in VT edit suites, sometimes a quarter inch controlled by a Q-Lock box. Dolby was making its mark on 1" machines although I don't think it was an interchange standard within ITV so you had to be little bit careful where it was used if you were sending tapes around (I may be wrong on that - but as I recall quite a few machines had external Dolby units fitted to the VT's as it was not a standard 1" spec or fitment?)
... The old Quad VTR format had dreadful quality audio, and I'm not sure it even supported stereo ? ...
I think maybe a little bit 'cruel' on the Quad format? Consulting my copy of 'Ennis' - the 'Bible' off quad engineers of the time! he states that Quad has a frequency response of 50z - 15khz although I don't have the noise figures to hand and to be honest I'm too lazy to look! So that bandwidth is what was required for mono FM broadcasting at the time. Given that most of us were still listening to 1/4" tape or audio cassettes I think Quad held up quite well. The second audio track, the 'cue track' has a much inferior performance but it was never intended to be for broadcast use as I'm sure you know.
I believe Ampex flirted with two broadcast quality linear stereo tracks on their AVR3 machines, but I can't give you a definitive answer. I don't believe it was widely taken up as of course 1" was taking over. 1" of course did have 4 broadcast quality linear audio tracks but no separate cue track. As a result one of those tracks was usually dedicated to linear timecode duties (A3 or A4 I can't remember now) and so laying off stereo became impossible. As I think Noggin posted earlier Bel Boxes came into day to day use for the laying off of audio in VT edit suites, sometimes a quarter inch controlled by a Q-Lock box. Dolby was making its mark on 1" machines although I don't think it was an interchange standard within ITV so you had to be little bit careful where it was used if you were sending tapes around (I may be wrong on that - but as I recall quite a few machines had external Dolby units fitted to the VT's as it was not a standard 1" spec or fitment?)
BL
There was a period in the 70s when it was after the chart, so you didn't necessarily mis-remember
I'm just about to start transferring my 1/4" tape collection from the early 70's to the PC and among the recordings are some chart shows, Sing Something Simple with 'The Cliff Adam Singers' features before the start of the recordings I made at the time although I can imagine it moved around the schedule. Yep! Carries PVT Radio 1. GE75 clears it for 10kW but we think it is doing 3kW in practice. Difficult to know for sure without asking them and leading to suspicion!!
I've got a feeling it was during the Alan Freeman's tenure of the chart ? I recall Clive Dunn's 'Grandad' being No 1, so actually having SSS straight after would have been a relief of sorts !
Some may remember too that Radio 1 also took over the Radio 2 FM network at 10pm each weekday evening and we were treated to shows such as 'The Sequence', 'Sounds of the Sounds' and some of John Peel's eclectic programmes. I'm looking forward to hearing those when I transfer them too.
Ha, yes, as a 10 year old, I found them far too weird to listen to, and I'd retune at 10pm to BBC Radio Oxford, who carried Radio 2's 'LW' service on FM after 10pm (as did all the BBC LRs back then)
I think my recordings are mostly Tom Brown (sp?) hosting - I think if Clive Dunn came on I would have stopped recording!
I think I might also have some recordings of Alan Freeman on Saturday afternoons and some 'In Concerts' which I think came on Early Saturday evening.
And at 10 years old you should have been in bed!
There was a period in the 70s when it was after the chart, so you didn't necessarily mis-remember
I'm just about to start transferring my 1/4" tape collection from the early 70's to the PC and among the recordings are some chart shows, Sing Something Simple with 'The Cliff Adam Singers' features before the start of the recordings I made at the time although I can imagine it moved around the schedule. Yep! Carries PVT Radio 1. GE75 clears it for 10kW but we think it is doing 3kW in practice. Difficult to know for sure without asking them and leading to suspicion!!
I've got a feeling it was during the Alan Freeman's tenure of the chart ? I recall Clive Dunn's 'Grandad' being No 1, so actually having SSS straight after would have been a relief of sorts !
Some may remember too that Radio 1 also took over the Radio 2 FM network at 10pm each weekday evening and we were treated to shows such as 'The Sequence', 'Sounds of the Sounds' and some of John Peel's eclectic programmes. I'm looking forward to hearing those when I transfer them too.
Ha, yes, as a 10 year old, I found them far too weird to listen to, and I'd retune at 10pm to BBC Radio Oxford, who carried Radio 2's 'LW' service on FM after 10pm (as did all the BBC LRs back then)
I think my recordings are mostly Tom Brown (sp?) hosting - I think if Clive Dunn came on I would have stopped recording!
I think I might also have some recordings of Alan Freeman on Saturday afternoons and some 'In Concerts' which I think came on Early Saturday evening.
And at 10 years old you should have been in bed!
MA
NICAM lives on, it's still used to feed the BBC's national FM transmitters, (very recently BBC R&D commissioned new codecs, to replace 30+ year old kit)
Here we are
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2016-01-35-million-people-didnt-notice-a-thing-dot-dot-dot
NICAM lives on, it's still used to feed the BBC's national FM transmitters, (very recently BBC R&D commissioned new codecs, to replace 30+ year old kit)
Here we are
http://www.bbc.co.uk/rd/blog/2016-01-35-million-people-didnt-notice-a-thing-dot-dot-dot
NG
Back in the day, a simulcast also meant that people could set up their stereo around the telly, tune to VHF and watch pictures with quality stereo sound, which was always bang on in synch because analogue broadcasting had virtually no delay.
It's a shame there is no easy way to delay analogue radio to match tv to allow you to watch football with the vastly better BBC local radio commentary instead of Sky's.
Though it is possible to delay the online streams with VLC or Kodi (though they may be too delayed to begin with, and would then need Sky+ delay to be added to the pictures and then the audio to be fine tuned)
noggin
Founding member
Back in the day, a simulcast also meant that people could set up their stereo around the telly, tune to VHF and watch pictures with quality stereo sound, which was always bang on in synch because analogue broadcasting had virtually no delay.
It's a shame there is no easy way to delay analogue radio to match tv to allow you to watch football with the vastly better BBC local radio commentary instead of Sky's.
Though it is possible to delay the online streams with VLC or Kodi (though they may be too delayed to begin with, and would then need Sky+ delay to be added to the pictures and then the audio to be fine tuned)
MA
Back in the day, a simulcast also meant that people could set up their stereo around the telly, tune to VHF and watch pictures with quality stereo sound, which was always bang on in synch because analogue broadcasting had virtually no delay.
It's a shame there is no easy way to delay analogue radio to match tv to allow you to watch football with the vastly better BBC local radio commentary instead of Sky's.
Though it is possible to delay the online streams with VLC or Kodi (though they may be too delayed to begin with, and would then need Sky+ delay to be added to the pictures and then the audio to be fine tuned)
....and normally there are no on-line streams of BBC LR sports commentaries, because of rights issues, so
you've got to resort to FM, AM or DAB (DAB's delay might be closer to Sky's ?)
Back in the day, a simulcast also meant that people could set up their stereo around the telly, tune to VHF and watch pictures with quality stereo sound, which was always bang on in synch because analogue broadcasting had virtually no delay.
It's a shame there is no easy way to delay analogue radio to match tv to allow you to watch football with the vastly better BBC local radio commentary instead of Sky's.
Though it is possible to delay the online streams with VLC or Kodi (though they may be too delayed to begin with, and would then need Sky+ delay to be added to the pictures and then the audio to be fine tuned)
....and normally there are no on-line streams of BBC LR sports commentaries, because of rights issues, so
you've got to resort to FM, AM or DAB (DAB's delay might be closer to Sky's ?)
GE
There was a Sony F1 decoder in CCA right until the end - you can see it in the bays here. (Just above some boards with my handwriting in chinagraph pencil...)
thegeek
Founding member
The FM Radio 1/2 Mix also simulcast a BBC broadcast of Jean-Michel Jarre's Rendezvous Houston concert, where a lot was made about the sound coming from a digital source (not sure if it was a modified 1" deck with PCM or a separately slaved uMatic with the PCM->Video converter that recorded digital audio as pictures - in a very similar way to the Betamax PCM-F1)
There was a Sony F1 decoder in CCA right until the end - you can see it in the bays here. (Just above some boards with my handwriting in chinagraph pencil...)
NG
There was a Sony F1 decoder in CCA right until the end - you can see it in the bays here. (Just above some boards with my handwriting in chinagraph pencil...)
Wonder when it was last used...
noggin
Founding member
The FM Radio 1/2 Mix also simulcast a BBC broadcast of Jean-Michel Jarre's Rendezvous Houston concert, where a lot was made about the sound coming from a digital source (not sure if it was a modified 1" deck with PCM or a separately slaved uMatic with the PCM->Video converter that recorded digital audio as pictures - in a very similar way to the Betamax PCM-F1)
There was a Sony F1 decoder in CCA right until the end - you can see it in the bays here. (Just above some boards with my handwriting in chinagraph pencil...)
Wonder when it was last used...
NG
It's a shame there is no easy way to delay analogue radio to match tv to allow you to watch football with the vastly better BBC local radio commentary instead of Sky's.
Though it is possible to delay the online streams with VLC or Kodi (though they may be too delayed to begin with, and would then need Sky+ delay to be added to the pictures and then the audio to be fine tuned)
....and normally there are no on-line streams of BBC LR sports commentaries, because of rights issues, so
you've got to resort to FM, AM or DAB (DAB's delay might be closer to Sky's ?)
Ah - I thought they were geoblocking now - but they aren't are they?
noggin
Founding member
It's a shame there is no easy way to delay analogue radio to match tv to allow you to watch football with the vastly better BBC local radio commentary instead of Sky's.
Though it is possible to delay the online streams with VLC or Kodi (though they may be too delayed to begin with, and would then need Sky+ delay to be added to the pictures and then the audio to be fine tuned)
....and normally there are no on-line streams of BBC LR sports commentaries, because of rights issues, so
you've got to resort to FM, AM or DAB (DAB's delay might be closer to Sky's ?)
Ah - I thought they were geoblocking now - but they aren't are they?