Radio Times

I would certainly agree with the first bit there, Meic, but then it goes a bit pear shaped, if you don't mind me saying so.

Agreed, there are very few REGIONAL non-news programmes on the Beeb.

However, Dragon's Eye is on the Beeb, it's national, rather than regional and I'D classify it as "news" as it's actually politics.

Whilst the Beeb regions have little that is non-news, the Beeb nations have quite a bit that is.

Sorry mate - it was Waterfront I was thinking of - an ITV Wales thing.

So yeah what you just said is what i was trying to say. ITV do lots of regional programming - obviously as ITV is an amalgamation of 20-odd regional tv companies. BBC regions do their news, the Politics Show, Inside Out and that's about it. BBC Nations do things like sport (Wales on Saturday) and entertainment (ye gods - Derek's Welsh Weather).

Hope that clarifies my mumbled ramblings. I'm off to watch the other Michael Young in action for the Texas Rangers. night night

This was the situation with RT a few years ago, and is still the case as far as I know:

10 variants of the magazine:

SCOTLAND (BBC Scotland and Scottish TV as main listings, Grampian and Border only listed in small type as variants)
IRELAND (BBC NI and Ulster as main listings, RTE channels in small type as variants)
NORTH WEST (Granada as main listing)
YORKSHIRE/NORTH EAST (Yorkshire as main listing with Tyne Tees opts in main text)
WEST/WALES (BBC West/Wales, with differences in main text, HTV West/Wales as main listing, with differences in main text, Ch4 main listing with S4C in small type)
MIDLANDS (Central as main listing)
EAST ANGLIA (Anglia as main listing)
SOUTH WEST (Westcountry as main listing, no mention of Channel TV or BBC CI)
SOUTH (Meridian as main listing, Channel only listed in small type as a variant)
LONDON (Carlton/LWT as main listing)

Where a BBC region has sub-opts they are mentioned in the main text. Maybe BBC CI is now mentioned in the SW edition?

The TV Times also had 10 variations at that time (generally referred to by the ITV company's name rather than geographical region). Channel is only mentioned in small print in the 'South' (effectively Meridian) edition. I guess 'Channel Television Times' ceased publication in 1991 when the law changed and multi-channel listings magazines became available. Before then there was an TV Times for all 14 main ITV regions.