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Radio 1 Fire Alarm x 2

(October 2004)

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DO
doctorvee
On Radio 3 once, I seem to remember the presenter making a comment about the emergency tape after a performance of John Cage's 4'33". (At the time, I thought it was because of coughing in the audience, but if Radio 3 has a purposely long period of silence before the emergency tape starts, it's strange that the presenter mentioned it.)
SP
Steve in Pudsey
I think they specifically had to make it longer for that piece
IS
Inspector Sands
Steve in Pudsey posted:
I think they specifically had to make it longer for that piece


They just turned it off, along with everything else in the transmissions chains that detects silence.

It's amazing how much work was needed to transmit 4 and a half minutes of silence!
NI
nimdy
How accurate is the detection of silence. Surely they could have played out an extremley faint sound during 4min33.
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A former member
Why does there bell sound like a bloomin' alarm clock? Our school fire alarm is, to be honest, scarier!

Someone ask the BBC and see if they can make a downloadable version of the actual happening, as it interests me for no reason.

So, was it a fire drill, a real fire, or an accident? someone please tell me!
BB
Big Brother Founding member
Garlic Bread? posted:
Why does there bell sound like a bloomin' alarm clock? Our school fire alarm is, to be honest, scarier!

Someone ask the BBC and see if they can make a downloadable version of the actual happening, as it interests me for no reason.

So, was it a fire drill, a real fire, or an accident? someone please tell me!


A number of Fire Alarms in the UK are mere bells often seen in a typical school. These bells in particular are cheaper and placed in buildings and enviroments that don't have such a noise as a bell or where the noise of a fire alarm can be confused with another sound from the building.

The first time the "silent alert" went it was probably something like someone smoking in the building or something, nothing minor as they were let back in shortly after. At 9am when it went off again Chris said he lent on it and set it off but I'm not sure how true that is.

If you read the article in the Daily Record I think it is it gives you some huge story ... however never believe anything you read in the paper as it's never true. The quotes in the article aren't what was said and most of what was said in the article references to the jokes made which the paper appears to have taken seriously.
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Big Brother posted:
At 9am when it went off again Chris said he lent on it and set it off but I'm not sure how true that is.

If you read the article in the Daily Record I think it is it gives you some huge story ... however never believe anything you read in the paper as it's never true. The quotes in the article aren't what was said and most of what was said in the article references to the jokes made which the paper appears to have taken seriously.


The article is talking crap, and as you say taking a joke as fact, I mean you're hardly going to have a break glass point to lean on on the desk are you?

Well Researched Daily Record Story posted:
After ten seconds of dead-air the station's emergency back-up system swung into action and listeners heard Outkast's Hey Ya and the Sugababes' Hole in the Head.


Sounded to me like Moyles was battling with the playout system to play the emergency tape from there rather than via the silence detector (so he could get out of it himself when they got back in), even opening the mic for a couple of seconds with the bell sounding. There was certainly no dead air just before Outkast played
DA
Dan Founding member
Yep I'd be surprised if it was only 10" of silence before the emergency DAT kicks in. Radio 2's is set at 50" and, has as been mentioned above, it's fiddly to get the network back from BH control room once it's switched automatically - and if you want to pick up smoothly you have to select the DAT on an OS on the con mixer first which takes extra time.
BB
BBC TV Centre
Steve in Pudsey posted:
Big Brother posted:
At 9am when it went off again Chris said he lent on it and set it off but I'm not sure how true that is.

If you read the article in the Daily Record I think it is it gives you some huge story ... however never believe anything you read in the paper as it's never true. The quotes in the article aren't what was said and most of what was said in the article references to the jokes made which the paper appears to have taken seriously.


The article is talking crap, and as you say taking a joke as fact, I mean you're hardly going to have a break glass point to lean on on the desk are you?

Well Researched Daily Record Story posted:
After ten seconds of dead-air the station's emergency back-up system swung into action and listeners heard Outkast's Hey Ya and the Sugababes' Hole in the Head.


Sounded to me like Moyles was battling with the playout system to play the emergency tape from there rather than via the silence detector (so he could get out of it himself when they got back in), even opening the mic for a couple of seconds with the bell sounding. There was certainly no dead air just before Outkast played


Unfortunately they don't seem to be too good at quoting people either ...

The Daily Record posted:
He addressed his studio producer, Rachel, with: 'What do we do now?'

Rachel told him: 'Play another song and evacuate.'


What was actually said was ...

Quote:
He addressed his studio producer, Rachel, with: 'What do we do now?'

Rachel told him: 'Put it into evacuation and go.'
IS
Inspector Sands
Steve in Pudsey posted:
The article is talking crap, and as you say taking a joke as fact, I mean you're hardly going to have a break glass point to lean on on the desk are you?


Doesn't have to be on the desk, could have been on the wall behind him. It would make sense as most alarm systems are set up so that if an alarm 'call point' (a break glass thing) is activated then it will go into full alarm evacuate mode with bells. If it's just a smoke/fire detector trigering the alarm full evacuate mode with bells isn't started until someone has checked the validity of the detection.
In broadcast environments when this happens a light warns those on air that they might be an alarm soon. When a call pint is pressed, it's no hesitation - full bells and everyone out
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A former member
Big Brother posted:
Garlic Bread? posted:
Why does there bell sound like a bloomin' alarm clock? Our school fire alarm is, to be honest, scarier!

Someone ask the BBC and see if they can make a downloadable version of the actual happening, as it interests me for no reason.

So, was it a fire drill, a real fire, or an accident? someone please tell me!


A number of Fire Alarms in the UK are mere bells often seen in a typical school. These bells in particular are cheaper and placed in buildings and enviroments that don't have such a noise as a bell or where the noise of a fire alarm can be confused with another sound from the building.

The first time the "silent alert" went it was probably something like someone smoking in the building or something, nothing minor as they were let back in shortly after. At 9am when it went off again Chris said he lent on it and set it off but I'm not sure how true that is.

If you read the article in the Daily Record I think it is it gives you some huge story ... however never believe anything you read in the paper as it's never true. The quotes in the article aren't what was said and most of what was said in the article references to the jokes made which the paper appears to have taken seriously.


To be honest, I think we need THAT bell in the Radio 1 Studio in our school! Laughing
SP
Steve in Pudsey
Inspector Sands posted:
could have been on the wall behind him


you'd be leaning back whilst doing a link? Not had a look at the R1 webcam lately but I think it would be a hell of a stretch back from the desk to the wall anyway

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