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NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Celeb specials of Wipeout were all in the Monkhouse years - six around Christmas 1998, three for around Easter 1999 (for some reason) and then another two Christmas specials in 2000.
RE
Revolution
Celeb specials have killed primetime gameshows to an extent too. On the whole I just don't find them special either - ITV have taken to running repeats of the celeb Chase episodes on racing weeks and I just find them so less engaging with "celebs" playing for charity than real people trying to win money for themselves.

I was watching a Russian Roulette (Corrie/Emmerdale special) on YouTube the other day and can't remember if this was ever done for civilians. It wouldn't work on daytime that's for sure. Very Happy


The quiz hosted by Rhona Cameron?

Yes.

JA
james-2001
I seem to remember people commenting at the time how badly edited the pilot episode of that was.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Interesting to think how far quiz shows have come, from effectively charades on TV in the 1970s to flying hexagons to massive coin pushing machines.

Which reminds me... Give Us A Clue was another show that shifted from peaktime to daytime, according to Wiki some point after 1987. Presumably its daytime equivalent was just cheaper appearance fees Very Happy
TT
ttt
Interesting to think how far quiz shows have come, from effectively charades on TV in the 1970s to flying hexagons to massive coin pushing machines.

Which reminds me... Give Us A Clue was another show that shifted from peaktime to daytime, according to Wiki some point after 1987. Presumably its daytime equivalent was just cheaper appearance fees Very Happy


And yet, the most successful prime time quiz (WWTBAM) remains almost a carbon copy of the very early hard-quiz shows of the 1950s.
RO
robertclark125
An interesting point about Give Us A Clue was it moved from daytime ITV to, in the 1990s a daytime revival on BBC1.
PF
PFML84
Ahhh, Bob Monkhouse's Wipeout that had the CGI audience. I still think it's hilarious they even bothered with that at all.

It was also a much better show with Paul in charge I thought. I just didn't enjoy Bob's presenting style on the show where he basically described every answer before it was revealed. Paul did it after and it was usually snappy and funny. I'm not saying Bob was a bad presenter, far from it, he just didn't suit Wipeout, and I don't think the show suited being daytime filler.
DE
deejay
There’s just no atmosphere at all. The jokes are flat. The contestants clearly don’t look like they’re caught up in an audience show at all (say what you will, a contestant behind a podium with a live studio audience looks and reacts in a totally different way to one in an empty studio) and the wide shots and masked studio roof shots look really cheap.

For me, the shows that worked best in daytime, that may have been cheaper to make than their predecessors but worked so well, we’re shows like Call My Bluff and Going for a Song. Simple shows, standing sets, doubtless they could have recorded several in one sitting. But still joyful to watch.

BA
bilky asko
Ahhh, Bob Monkhouse's Wipeout that had the CGI audience. I still think it's hilarious they even bothered with that at all.

It was also a much better show with Paul in charge I thought. I just didn't enjoy Bob's presenting style on the show where he basically described every answer before it was revealed. Paul did it after and it was usually snappy and funny. I'm not saying Bob was a bad presenter, far from it, he just didn't suit Wipeout, and I don't think the show suited being daytime filler.


Well they'd already done the virtual set extensions, so a video overlay of an audience might not have seemed too much more to do (CGI seems a bit of a stretch as a description).

EDIT: A quick search shows that there was more than one version of the audience - I think it may have been updated when it went widescreen.

EDIT 2: The earlier audience (you can catch a glimpse in the video below) was, I think, the one that made it onto Points of View. You can see two or three of the same people really badly pasted along the audience.

Last edited by bilky asko on 7 April 2019 9:13pm - 2 times in total
JA
james-2001
ttt posted:
And yet, the most successful prime time quiz (WWTBAM) remains almost a carbon copy of the very early hard-quiz shows of the 1950s.


Though many of them were found out to be rigged! Especially in the US, but I think the UK versions of a couple of those shows got caught up in it too.
BA
bilky asko
I think the Monkhouse era Wipeout gets a very unfair assessment on UKGameshows (and seems to colour a lot of opinions of people commenting on it since). The "hard to read" board seems like nonsense - yes, the old board was slightly clearer on their blurry screenshots, but it was also much more dated. The general design of it (the wonky star, the no-signal blue, and the Wipeout symbol) is nowhere near as aesthetically pleasing. The old theme tune wasn't a classic either, and it frankly needed an update.

The set design from the Daniels era would have looked incredibly dated by 1998 or 1999 - people always mention the Chain Letters set during Dave Spikey's era being out of date, that would have been similar. The design used lasted (with a few tweaks) five years without looking dated.

Yes, the virtual audience didn't look brilliant, and the pace slowed a bit, but the former hadn't been tried before (as far as I am aware), and the latter was a valid change. What it doesn't get credit for is essentially being the forerunner to the afternoon quiz show hosted by a name (The Chase, anyone?). It outlasted the Daniels version and was a fixture in the afternoons for half a decade.
JA
james-2001
I imagine it would have gone on for longer had Monkhouse not died as well.
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