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HC
Hatton Cross
Johnr posted:


Daytime shows don't get much worse than this effort from 2007! Bradley Walsh did the pilot too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fY3in4E2hs


Or 'Set For Life' for our American readers.

Yes, For The Rest Of Your Life.
Dick De Rijk (Creator of Deal Or No Deal) and his attempt to strike tv gold lightening twice, but it was a rather low powered storm.

Studio 2 at TLS, for any studio geeks. I ended up a three of those recordings, and to be fair to Nicky Campbell, he made sure recordings rattled along at a fair pace.
The only slow down was they were using an early incarnation of EVS during the end game (the soundproof booth wasnt really at the back if the audience seating. I believe they used a dressing room off studio 3) and was very glitchy during the final round playback to see and hear what was going on in the 'booth' for the studio audience.

Co-incidentally, the BBC have commissioned a pilot of 'The Wall' an American format, which takes some gameplay cues, from this show.
Playing partner in a soundproof booth, 'stop the game' mechanic, whilst the game out front still continues, and something I'm uncomfortable with, contestants having to 'act happy/sad' before the prize money big reveal.
IS
Inspector Sands

The changes made to Krypton Factor in 1995 still bemuse me to this day as to what exactly they were trying to do with that, after many years of the same successful format (without an internal advert break I hasten to add), they go off and reinvent it with gimmicks that didn't work well on screen.


Wasn’t that around the same time that Telly Addicts had a complete format change which killed it off?


Moving to daytime isn't a new concept for gameshows, I remember Winner Takes All moving to daytime in a much cheaper form in the 80s. Jimmy Tarbuck was replaced with Geoffrey Wheeler, who was the voice over on the original.

Wasn't Chain Letters originally a prime time show? and there was an odd game/panel show presented by Chris Tarrant called PSI which didn't do well and went to afternoons with a less poncy but less good name of Crazy Comparisons
RI
Richard
The People Versus was also retooled in to a much simpler format for the same slot. I always felt that one was the best of the bunch in that slot - but I don't think ITV even screened what they had in the can.

What happens to such quiz shows that were never shown initially? Are they lost forever? Rerecorded over? For example, Shafted has 16 unaired episodes, The Crystal Maze has 3 unaired episodes from 2017, The People Versus has 2 unaired editions, 500 Questions likely has 6 more episodes to air, yet alone 300 more questions to be asked. Any ideas?


I suspect Shafted might’ve been shown if RKS hadn’t reignited his political career. Now that that seemed to have died a death they potentially could show it.
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Whataday Founding member
The People Versus was also retooled in to a much simpler format for the same slot. I always felt that one was the best of the bunch in that slot - but I don't think ITV even screened what they had in the can.


I found something quite amusing about the "downgrade" of The People Versus because of the way the replaced Kirsty Young with Kaye Adams, as if a Scottish female was key to the role of host but they needed to find a cut-price version.

With regards to Shafted, I seem to be the only person that enjoyed the few episodes they aired.
Woodpecker and Juicy Joe gave kudos
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
The People Versus was also retooled in to a much simpler format for the same slot. I always felt that one was the best of the bunch in that slot - but I don't think ITV even screened what they had in the can.

What happens to such quiz shows that were never shown initially? Are they lost forever? Rerecorded over? For example, Shafted has 16 unaired episodes, The Crystal Maze has 3 unaired episodes from 2017, The People Versus has 2 unaired editions, 500 Questions likely has 6 more episodes to air, yet alone 300 more questions to be asked. Any ideas?


I suspect Shafted might’ve been shown if RKS hadn’t reignited his political career. Now that that seemed to have died a death they potentially could show it.


As a point of order because Shafted was never aired in full there will be prizes for it that need to be paid out when the show does air. So presumably that's a reason why it's never been seen since as its probably too expensive for Challenge to get if that's a requirement.
IN
Interceptor
The People Versus was also retooled in to a much simpler format for the same slot. I always felt that one was the best of the bunch in that slot - but I don't think ITV even screened what they had in the can.


I found something quite amusing about the "downgrade" of The People Versus because of the way the replaced Kirsty Young with Kaye Adams, as if a Scottish female was key to the role of host but they needed to find a cut-price version.

With regards to Shafted, I seem to be the only person that enjoyed the few episodes they aired.

Yes. I also found it amusing that they had Kaye's desk spin at the beginning ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rV8aHg8E00 ). In the previous version the desk would turn to face the active player, but in this version there was only ever one active player at a time. I guess they were just trying to get their money's worth out of an expensive bit of set.
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nwtv2003
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Wasn't Chain Letters originally a prime time show?


I believe Chain Letters was a minority of shows that went the other way. I believe it’s first run was daytime and one of the later runs was prime time, before going back to daytime.

The People Versus was one of those shows that never got to establish itself in prime time before changing it to a daytime show. If anything the daytime run lasted longer than the prime time run.
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ttt
Chain Letters was originally a 9.25 show. It proved popular so at the last minute, the second series was shifted from daytime to primetime. No changes were made to the programme as when it was commissioned it was assumed it would go out at 9.25 like the previous year.

Ratings were decent enough with Andrew O'Connor but at the end of the year the decision to go with prime time for a second year was marginal so once again a 40-episode third series was made as a daytime show but put out in primetime during late 1989.

Allen Stewart wasn't as popular as O'Connor or Beadle had been and ratings tailed off. Over Christmas 1989 several stations stopped showing the programme so it was canned completely, with the remaining shows burned off in daytime during the summer of 1990.

All in all a bit of a weird situation.
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A former member
Yes chain letters was the first 09.25 gameshow, the second series was tested in peak time but wasnt networked. 3rd series started off in peak but again not networked and moved back to daytime. Allan stweart does explain does but that story for another time.
RI
Richard
What happens to such quiz shows that were never shown initially? Are they lost forever? Rerecorded over? For example, Shafted has 16 unaired episodes, The Crystal Maze has 3 unaired episodes from 2017, The People Versus has 2 unaired editions, 500 Questions likely has 6 more episodes to air, yet alone 300 more questions to be asked. Any ideas?


I suspect Shafted might’ve been shown if RKS hadn’t reignited his political career. Now that that seemed to have died a death they potentially could show it.


As a point of order because Shafted was never aired in full there will be prizes for it that need to be paid out when the show does air. So presumably that's a reason why it's never been seen since as its probably too expensive for Challenge to get if that's a requirement.


Do prizes not get paid out if a programme isn’t aired? They were quite big prizes, weren’t they?
BA
bilky asko

I suspect Shafted might’ve been shown if RKS hadn’t reignited his political career. Now that that seemed to have died a death they potentially could show it.


As a point of order because Shafted was never aired in full there will be prizes for it that need to be paid out when the show does air. So presumably that's a reason why it's never been seen since as its probably too expensive for Challenge to get if that's a requirement.


Do prizes not get paid out if a programme isn’t aired? They were quite big prizes, weren’t they?


There are rare cases where this isn't the case, but on the whole prizes are only paid after broadcast, which can mean a significant delay for the winner.
GO
gottago

As a point of order because Shafted was never aired in full there will be prizes for it that need to be paid out when the show does air. So presumably that's a reason why it's never been seen since as its probably too expensive for Challenge to get if that's a requirement.


Do prizes not get paid out if a programme isn’t aired? They were quite big prizes, weren’t they?


There are rare cases where this isn't the case, but on the whole prizes are only paid after broadcast, which can mean a significant delay for the winner.

Is this definitely still the case today? I haven't worked on a show where the players haven't been paid immediately.

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