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Gary McEwan
Well, Wheel Of Fortune were the first, they went to cheap daytime in 1999, the other two didn't do it until 2002 (after WoF had ended).


But was that a Scottish decision to do that or was ITV telling them to do it...
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A former member
Well, Wheel Of Fortune were the first, they went to cheap daytime in 1999, the other two didn't do it until 2002 (after WoF had ended).


But was that a Scottish decision to do that or was ITV telling them to do it...


ITVs.. STV had their own cheap gameshows like Passport quiz,... banging out 150 of those.
AN
Andrew Founding member
Remember that cheesy game shows like this fell out of favour in prime time around that time, due to the success of Millionaire. Every game show had to be dark and moody for a period after that. Hence these old favourites were moved to daytime, and with a move to daytime comes a reduced budget.
NJ
Neil Jones Founding member
Funny how a lot of gameshows when they get their formats changed or budgets cut become crap and tend to die shortly afterwards.

The changes made to Krypton Factor in 1995 still bemuse me to this day as to what exactly they were trying to do with that, after many years of the same successful format (without an internal advert break I hasten to add), they go off and reinvent it with gimmicks that didn't work well on screen.

It is documented that Bullseye was going to have format changes as well after 1995 but it's never been explained exactly what those changes were, but the decision to end the show after 15 years meant it went out on a high.
KE
kernow
Funny how a lot of gameshows when they get their formats changed or budgets cut become crap and tend to die shortly afterwards.


That's something which isn't unique to gameshows.

Crossroads and the Bill are examples of other types of show which have had their formats changed, and then got axed not long after.
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
Remember that cheesy game shows like this fell out of favour in prime time around that time, due to the success of Millionaire. Every game show had to be dark and moody for a period after that. Hence these old favourites were moved to daytime, and with a move to daytime comes a reduced budget.


I feel the only reason these shows were moved to daytime, was due to Emmerdale Farm going out 5 nights a week at 7pm from around 1999. That meant there was no room for ITV Gameshows to go out at prime time anymore, as they had done for years on end before Coronation Street. I think ITV is a much poorer channel due to the lack of these types of show at this time anymore. I don't think you can solely blame Millionaire for them falling out of favour and shunting them into daytime before being axed. I think they would have worked in addition to Millionaire.
They all had their presenters changed also - Paul Hendy for Wheel of Fortune, Andy Collins for Family Fortunes, Mark Curry for Catchphrase - all pretty unknowns. No wonder they all failed!
KE
kernow
They all had their presenters changed also - Paul Hendy for Wheel of Fortune, Andy Collins for Family Fortunes, Mark Curry for Catchphrase - all pretty unknowns. No wonder they all failed!


The budget cuts associated with moving to daytime will have inevitably resulted in cuts to the presenter fees, which may explain the changes in presenters.

It may have been the case for some of these shows that the existing presenters were offered the new format shows, but turned them down due to the lower fees.

In the case of Catchphrase though, it was widely reported that Roy Walker was sacked.
JA
james-2001
They all had their presenters changed also - Paul Hendy for Wheel of Fortune, Andy Collins for Family Fortunes, Mark Curry for Catchphrase - all pretty unknowns. No wonder they all failed!


I wouldn't say Mark Curry or Paul Hendy were that unknown even if they weren't high profile. Andy Collins though, yeah, nobody knew who he was.

Same when they put Nick Wier on Catchphrase- and it was still in primetime then. That was a pretty awful revamp in itself too.
IN
Interceptor
The People Versus was also retooled in to a much simpler format for the same slot. I always felt that one was the best of the bunch in that slot - but I don't think ITV even screened what they had in the can.
JA
james-2001
Crossroads and the Bill are examples of other types of show which have had their formats changed, and then got axed not long after.


The 2009 Bill revamp is one of those mysteries we'll never fully understand, why they felt they needed to change the show so drastically, though to be fair it felt like the show was on its way out and ITV was getting bored with it for a good year or two beforehand. It was endlessly being displaced by other shows (especially football) for a start.
JJ
Juicy Joe Founding member
The People Versus was also retooled in to a much simpler format for the same slot. I always felt that one was the best of the bunch in that slot - but I don't think ITV even screened what they had in the can.

What happens to such quiz shows that were never shown initially? Are they lost forever? Rerecorded over? For example, Shafted has 16 unaired episodes, The Crystal Maze has 3 unaired episodes from 2017, The People Versus has 2 unaired editions, 500 Questions likely has 6 more episodes to air, yet alone 300 more questions to be asked. Any ideas?
JA
james-2001
I doubt they're wiped, they probably just sit on the shelves. I know some unaired gameshow episodes have popped up on Challenge years later- the unaired episodes of the 2007 Supermarket Sweet series for a start.

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