A quick question over dates on endboards

Apologies for the obscurity of this question, but it's something I can't solve. It's probably been done before, but say a programme was made in 1989, for example, and aired the same year. A few years later, let's say 2005, it was re-edited, revised etc and re-aired in the same year.

Now, the year that'd appear on the endboard on the original (which would be (C) 1989), would it remain the same when it airs in 2005, would the year of the revision prioritise it and become (C) 2005, or do they try fitting in both years, and if it's the latter, how would it be neatly displayed?

Thanks

This is a bit of a grey area, I think. Some programmes use the original (such as remastered programming) whereas some change it (Like certain ITV programmes).

Tiger Aspect have changed Mr Bean episodes by putting the new animated endboard on, but they still say the original year, e.g. "(C) 1990 Tiger Aspect" at the bottom.

Not just the year, they say the original company name Tiger Television.

ITV are quite notorious over this, watch pretty much any repeat of Morse, Frost or Darling Buds of May, they tend to get copyrighted the year they were re-edited. I remember seeing a Morse that was Copyrighted to Carlton Television in 1992, even though the original edit would more than likely be a Central/Zenith production.

I remember a few years ago they showed Classic Coronation Street once or twice on ITV1 during the day, and I remember well they changed the credits to the 2006 look, with the original year copyrighted to ITV Productions, now that didn't look right.

I think a lot depends on your definition of re-editing and revision.
Most of the time the actual programme doesn't appear to be edited, more rather the original end-cap is simply replaced, and as previously discussed, often replaced with the year it was done.

On occasion an entire credit sequence has been redone, but the actual programme itself is untouched. I certainly wouldn't consider it worthy of a 2010 copyright notice on it, after all a quick Google will tell anybody the actual age of the programme, never mind what the end-cap says.



Technically true though, as Carlton bought Zenith Productions in 1987, not long after buying a stake in Central.

Ah yes, Inspector Morse had had the 2006 "...previously" slug put on the beginning of the programme and has the 2006 credit style, complete with "itv.com" at the bottom.

I've seen very weird examples with the late 1990s Thames logo (after it was taken over by Pearson) with '(c) 1973' at the bottom.

Heartbeat repeats of the early series on ITV4 replace the credits and copyright all episodes to 2006, even though they're really from a decade earlier.

Oddly enough the first ever episode of Mr Bean was copyrighted "Thames Television PLC 1988" yet I'm sure on the repeat it was credited to Tiger Television, does that mean that Thames gave up the copyright to the first episode? Also it was odd to see the episode edited with the latter style Bean Titles as well.



For some reason that was applied to The World At War & was in black & white, the most oddest caption is still this one for "The Bill":

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v686/Johnny1989/ThamesYorkshireTelevision2.png

I take it these episodes are copyrighted to Thames Television & Yorkshire Television has no ownership over them, or am I wrong?

I think in this case Yorkshire presented some Bill episodes until Carlton took over presenting them, although I do recall at least once when LWT presented The Bill as there was a Saturday night episode once, probably about 1994.

Interesting, especially seeing as Thames & LWT didn't get on to well when both were on air

Why did Thames' programmes have to be presented by other franchises when they first became an independent producer?

Compliance, but even now an ITV company has to take responsibility for every programme on air. It's kept Channel TV afloat for years!