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A Question of Studio Use

(January 2006)

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noggin Founding member
BBC TV Centre posted:
stevek posted:
tell me i'm asking a silly question but what does the term four waller mean

I'd guess a four waller is referring to a broom-cupboard style room, which has no windows and is just a boxy room for a specfic purpose.


Four-waller refers to a studio space that is just a space - and doesn't have technical facilities like a gallery, cameras, sound gear (and sometimes doesn't have lighting). Four wallers are used for single camera productions shot like film, or for situations where an Outside Broadcast truck is parked outside. (I believe Grange Hill was shot as a Four-waller at Elstree, with a BBC OB scanner parked outside, as the studio it was shot in no longer had a gallery available to it. However I believe some lighting gear was still installed)

They are simple spaces with "four walls".

It doesn't mean they are small though - the main Pebble Mill studio was originally a full studio, but was used as a four-waller when Doctors was shot there I believe.
ST
stevek
flying fish finger?

sorry but somebody will have to explain that one.

good point about the asbestos bunson burner mats, it's surprising how much asbestos was used until it was found to be dangerous

in 40 odd years time we'll probably find out that concrete is just as dangerous

referering to the old street set has anybody seen any pictures of it apart from in the episodes
BC
Blake Connolly Founding member
stevek posted:
flying fish finger?

sorry but somebody will have to explain that one.


http://thetvroom.com/images-bbc-one-news/news-past/85-nine-start-b.jpg

See the rest at the TV Room
JE
Jez Founding member
stevek posted:


referering to the old street set has anybody seen any pictures of it apart from in the episodes


The 1968-1982 set

http://www.corrie.net/profiles/places/set2a.gif

Corrie.net
IS
Inspector Sands
Gavin Scott posted:
They are; but there is a more significant risk of particles becoming airborne when you use non-friable asbestos on a work-bench than if you use it on a laboratory heat mat. Consequently the latter is acceptable, while the former is not.

Well you did ask.


Absolutely, thanks for that

noggin posted:
N3 was also used, minus the backwall, as the "acquarium" studio for the post-flying fish fingers 9 O'Clock News and daytime summaries I believe. It no longer exists.


Is that the one with the newsroom backdrop? Was that a real newsroom?
ST
stevek
thanks blake for explaining the flying fishfingers, i guess as i was a child then i was probably a bit pre occupied with going to bed rather than watching the nine o clock news

thanks jez for the coronation street pic, is the viaduct on that set the same one used for davenports garage or has that ceased to be as well?
ST
stevek
thanks blake for explaining the flying fishfingers, i guess as i was a child then i was probably a bit pre occupied with going to bed rather than watching the nine o clock news

thanks jez for the coronation street pic, is the viaduct on that set the same one used for davenports garage or has that ceased to be as well?
JE
Jez Founding member
stevek posted:
thanks blake for explaining the flying fishfingers, i guess as i was a child then i was probably a bit pre occupied with going to bed rather than watching the nine o clock news

thanks jez for the coronation street pic, is the viaduct on that set the same one used for davenports garage or has that ceased to be as well?


Im not sure, there is a possibility that it is the same one. All I know is the old set used to be the other side of the big warehouse building to where it is currently.

Here is a pic I took when in Manchester last year

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/Jez2005/GranadaStudioTours.jpg
MA
mattlock
Jez posted:
stevek posted:
thanks blake for explaining the flying fishfingers, i guess as i was a child then i was probably a bit pre occupied with going to bed rather than watching the nine o clock news

thanks jez for the coronation street pic, is the viaduct on that set the same one used for davenports garage or has that ceased to be as well?


Im not sure, there is a possibility that it is the same one. All I know is the old set used to be the other side of the big warehouse building to where it is currently.

Here is a pic I took when in Manchester last year

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a238/Jez2005/GranadaStudioTours.jpg


If I recall correctly from childhood, this was indeed the area where that old pic was taken (with the street itself running at a slight angle to the viaduct, which is why the cobbles don't run parallel to the pavement in that old pic). Indeed I think the location was chosen specifically because that viaduct was there. There used to be a gate with a viewing "hole" where you could stand and watch the Street being filmed (if you were patient, as only two people at the most could squeeze in front of the grill), which would be roughly in the location this pic was taken from (a bit nearer to the warehouse though I think). However the road this gate was located on ran between the main studios and the warehouse area (which was undeveloped at the time) and when the bonded warehouse area was first bought and developed, that road was bought too and becamse a part of the complex (and therefore inaccessible to the general public).
Or it could be my memory playing tricks, it was a long time ago now!
ST
stevek
thanks for the info on that, i've just seen a clip on tv ark which shows the old set facing the viaduct

here's the link
www.tv-ark.org.uk/itvnorthwest/itvnorthwest/progs/coronationstreet1975.rm

i don't know about you but the building behind the viaduct looks like the museum of science and industry building which would suggest the old set was on the same site as the new set

but what do i know i was only 12 when they built the present one
JE
Jez Founding member
Shouldnt think so as the museum of science and industry was built the same time as the new set in 1982 I think.

This is from Corrie.net;

"In 1981 it was decided to re-build the outside set again. The existing set was never popular with the cast - it was a cold and draughty place and there were maintenence and security problems. It was decided to incorporate the new set into Granada Studio Tours, and so the set was re-built a couple of hundred yards away from the original outdoor set.

The new set was opened by The Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh on 5 May 1982. This time reclaimed Salford bricks were used, and the houses properly constructed; the cobbles were laid in the correct direction, a new No7 was built, and a ginnel added between The Rovers and No1. A derelict building, later to become the Graffitti Club marked a glimpse of Rosamund Street. Episode 2210, transmitted on 7 June 1982 was the first to use the new set."

I was only a year old when the new was built - lol
ST
stevek
hi jez, when i referred to the museum of science and industry i meant the actual building which according to their website was built in 1880

you are right about when the museum opened in that building which was 1983. although it had been on the site, in the former liverpool road railway station, since 1975

having done a bit of investigating my guess is the building behind the original viaduct is the 1830 warehouse on the museum site and not the main museum building, here is a link from the museum website showing a photo, you can match the roofline and the round windows in the apexes

http://www.msim.org.uk/Galleries.asp?menuid=874

now i feel a bit daft thinking it was the other building

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