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BBC staff asked to form audiences for shows. (May 2006)

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Baroness Trumpington
It seems extraordinary that the council couldn't just issue a temporary licence or a temp exemption, pending a proper sorting out. It's not as if they are dealing with some dodgy nightclub, or a rave. Sounds like a severe breakdown of common sense to me.

Or perhaps both council and BBC were paralysed by fear of litigation. Once you've realised that (a) a licence is required; and (b) one has not been issued, what happens if you go ahead anyway and someone is injured? Is the council liable for failing to properly exercise its supervisory responsibility, or is the BBC for failing to have the right chit? I guess once the licence is issued, the risk of incident is unchanged, but the council is in the clear.
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Spencer
It's also causing problems for non-BBC programmes shot at TVC. Apparently Paul O' Grady has been told he can't play his organ.
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Paul Clark
These restrictions I hear of seem to be getting increasingly OTT...

I hadn't heard about any of this licensing business until a few days ago, and now all of a sudden it appears to be having a prominent impact on shows or aspects of shows which I thought were always running within the rules, as it were.
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Baroness Trumpington
Spencer For Hire posted:
Apparently Paul O' Grady has been told he can't play his organ.

There's no answer to that...!
Paul Clark posted:
....shows which I thought were always running within the rules..."

The position seems to be that both the BBC and Hammersmith & Fulham Council thought they were playing by the rules, but then the legal departments of both organisations read the rules again and came to the conclusion that a licence was needed.
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brotherton sands
I love it when a thread title way more dramatic than the truth of the subject. There's obviously a lot of Tabloid Headline writers in this forum...
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r2ro
Paul Clark posted:
These restrictions I hear of seem to be getting increasingly OTT...

I hadn't heard about any of this licensing business until a few days ago, and now all of a sudden it appears to be having a prominent impact on shows or aspects of shows which I thought were always running within the rules, as it were.


I agree wholeheartedly. Why bother causing such a fuss now when it has been fine in the past?
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russnet Founding member
Well although Paul played his organ making his anger along the way shown on camera. The studio audience were not allowed to sing to anything he played.
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Andrew Founding member
russnet posted:
Well although Paul played his organ making his anger along the way shown on camera. The studio audience were not allowed to sing to anything he played.

He also launched into a rant at the start of the show, making the whole thing sound like a laughing stock.

I wonder how long it will take the BBC to get a licence Laughing
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Charlie Wells Moderator
Then at the end during the credits he started sining and was dragged off by 2 'policemen'.
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russnet Founding member
I wonder why Louis Walsh didn't dress up with the Egyptian theme going on. I wasn't home in time to catch the very start of the interview.
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PremiumBrand
Charlie Wells posted:
Then at the end during the credits he started sining and was dragged off by 2 'policemen'.


Those 'policemen' had been brought in at the beginning of the show and stole his instrument.

From what I gathered the only thing they weren't allowed to do was let the audience sing. Other than that everything seemed normal unless they just broke all the rules lol.
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tvmercia Founding member
Baroness Trumpington posted:
It seems extraordinary that the council couldn't just issue a temporary licence or a temp exemption, pending a proper sorting out. It's not as if they are dealing with some dodgy nightclub, or a rave. Sounds like a severe breakdown of common sense to me.


i know of another cases where a broadcaster and a council have come unstuck when it comes to licences. it seems the recent changes have taken many by surprise.

as for temp licences - i don't know what specific licence tv centre would require - but i do know for one type of entertainment licence, you can only have 12 events covered within a year on a temp licence - with gaps of x hours between events etc etc.

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